Ok, Kids, this is what they're pulling out of their asses now

[Maine-ah]

http://www.newsnet5.com/politics/17703748/detail.html

CLEVELAND -- Cuyahoga County is investigating possible wrongdoing with ACORN's voter registration drive.

The Sheriff's Department confirmed the investigation after some intense questioning Monday by the Board of Elections about duplicate registrations, chief investigator Duane Pohlman reported.

Freddie Johnson said he filled out 73 registration cards because he was given cigarettes and about $20.

ACORN representatives said they've been working with the BOE to identify any voter fraud. The organization emphasizes that this is not fraud because there was no vote.

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this is all I have on this story, so if anyone else has more information than this, it would be appreciated. Especially those who live in the area that the story orginated from.

[napi21]

1. How damn HARD is it to catch duplicates? For god sake! I thought

THAT would have been something the registrar would do automatically!

[blogslut]

2. And who is to say that there aren't lil' scamps pretending to rep ACORN?

How hard can it be to acquire an ACORN registration form, scan it, make copies and set up a fake operation?

[yourout]

4. Ding, ding, ding......we have a winner! What better way to discredit them...right from Karl Roves..

devious little mind.

[Boz]

3. Workers are paid per signup, Some fraud occours in the filling out, but Managers go through and tag

the obvious bad ones, BUT THEY ALL HAVE TO BE TURNED IN. The fraud has nothing to do with votes it is fraud against acorn by bad actor contractors. The republicans know this, They are being disingenuous.

Plain and simple even if a few false names fall through there still will be no one by that name to show up to cast the vote, but thee are several layers of safeguards in place and it was Acorn Managers itself that found and marked most of the fakes.

[MercutioATC]

5. I saw an interview with some ACORN muckety muck and he said the pay was hourly.

He also said that they screen all of the registrations and flag duplicates and obvious false info...but that they're required by law to submit all of them.

No idea if any of that is actually true.

[shraby]

8. I saw that they pay hourly also.

[Lochloosa]

15. Boz, they DO NOT pay per signup. They are paid by the hour.

Please read this thread. It will straighten out a lot of points.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4207271&mesg_id=4207271

[Avalux]

6. Duplicate registrations do not equate to votes or poll #s.

This sort of stuff happens all the time and it's really pathetic Faux and the McCain campaign have become hysterical over it.

[shraby]

7. I thought Acorn pays by the hour, not by the

number of registrations. Also isn't "Freddie Johnson" kind of a generic name? Sounds stinky to me.

[CitizenPatriot]

9. as someone else pointed out

if the guy filled out 73 voter registration cards for a cigarette, what do you think it took for the GOP to "guide" him into bearing false witness (or as they say in GOPPER world, "rebrand" the truth)?

[Overseas]

10. Wish the Republican owned corporate media would tell the bigger story--

why are Republicans trying so hard to stop ACORN's efforts to get more people out to vote?

Why don't they want more people to vote?

[prolesunited]

11. Registration DOES NOT equal vote fraud

ACORN is required to turn in all forms (thanks to law enacted after GOP who was registering Dems and then tossing them). The group flags the forms they think are bad before turning them in.

It is up to the state's registrar, not the group collecting registrations, to verify voter eligibility.

This all has been trumped up to take focus off the fact that the GOP removed thousands of ELIGIBLE voters off the rolls through various caging schemes.

[KathieG]

12. Wow...nice diversionary tactic to keep people from looking into all the GOP

voter fraud...voter suppression, caging, purging. Pathetic.

[Barack_America]

13. I registered to vote twice.

I registered with ACORN on campus, but my registration was slow in being processed. I called the BOE and they said, "no problem, just come down and fill out another", considering I had no way of confirming my registration was turned in. I ended up getting two cards, but that only translated into one vote as I was only on the rolls once. Multiple registrations, BFD. :eyes:

[John Q. Citizen]

14. We need to fight this. We need to pass a law that makes it a federal

felony to attempt to manipulate an election through spurious prosecution, or the threat of spurious prosecution.

It needs to be a felony to attempt to knowingly subvert a qualified elector's right to cast a vote. Particularly when it can be shown to be an organized effort to suppress turn out through verbal or written fraud, deceit, mechanical or electrical sabotage, or any actions or means intended to suppress a targeted group from voting.

We need to loudly and publicly challenge this demonizing against ACORN for what it is; A blatant effort to misdirect the public away from the real and all too widespread election fraud. That fraud which purposely excludes qualified voters based on unnessesary and burdensome regulations on the voters.

We need a constitutional right for all eligible electors to cast a vote in all public elections. And we need both civil and criminal penalties for intentionally interfering with that right.

[windbreeze]

16. other than, some are blaming it on Obama...n/t

[windbreeze]

17. oh...and

I read that they are alleging voter registration fraud took place in 12 states...after I responded and said that all registrations had to be turned in, and that someone would then check to see if any were illegal, and discard them...I exited...Remind me some, didn't we go through something like this in 2004? was it with the same agency? Were the Rep's involved? Did anything ever come of it?...wb