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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 09:50 AM
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Told you So: North Dakota poll: Obama 45, McCain 43
I called this a couple weeks ago, saying we may have pulled out of North Dakota a little too early looking back, because with this Obama surge, we probably were closing in. I was called a concern troll. Well, it looks like we are on top there after all.

http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm?id=218215§ion=news
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 09:51 AM
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1. Ed Schultz has been saying it all yr. That Obama can win there
He lives there
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 09:51 AM
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2. Whatever concern troll.
:P

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Schulzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 09:52 AM
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3. I am concerned.
That we need more ND polls. WV and MT, too.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 09:52 AM
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4. 538's model finds it to be an outlier. I have to agree; it's totally inconsistent
with everything else we've seen out of ND. Still, who knows?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 09:55 AM
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6. its not an outlier at all.
In July and late August (pre convention), polls showed him down 1, 3, and 3. Then he had a bad few weeks of polling when his numbers plummeted after the conventions. BUt not, with his numbers surging, hes back to making it close and is even on top. Why would that be an outlier? Me thinks Nate Silver is wrong.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 09:56 AM
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7. Do you know what an outlier *is*?
:rofl:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 09:57 AM
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8. You know anytime I disagree with 538, you become an ass hole, plain and simple
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:01 AM
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9. (shrug) I was just wondering if you knew what an outlier was. There's reason to believe...
that you don't.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:03 AM
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10. The one that doesnt fit
Kind of like ARG saying Hillary will win Iowa by 9 while the rest of the polls show Obama up 2-8 points. So what makes this poll an outlier? We dont have enough polls to prove that this one would be. Instead, the number fits with the trends.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:08 AM
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11. If you don't have enough polls to prove that it IS an outlier...
Then you don't have enough polls to prove that it is NOT one either.

Contra your initial claim that "it is not an outlier at all".
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:10 AM
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12. Then as you say, thats also not a good enough reason to claim it IS an outlier
But it you look at the polling trend, why would this one seem like an outlier, looking at what I said before?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:13 AM
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14. "It's not an outlier at all".
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 09:52 AM
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5. I remember that.
Boy, did you get jumped on! Nice call! :toast:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:13 AM
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13. Good news! I hope it lasts. I'd like to see another poll back it up.
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