I AM A HAND WRINGING WEENIE.. And here's why?

[Fluffdaddy]

I remember 2004

12 Noon Nov 4th 2004. The usual suspects was running around the forum backslapping each other and doing victory laps after a few exit polls showed Kerry way a head...............Like we already won something

2 weeks ago some idiot here posts who's planning on going to Obama's presidential inauguration...........Like we already won something.


Rules to live by

Never talk to a baseball pitcher about and possibly no hitter.............Before that no hitter is in the book

Never put the champagne on ice before the championship is won

Never count your chickens before they hitches


And NEVER EVER TALK about a Presidential win or landslid BEFORE you have one.


We have not won shit, not even close...........there is 3 weeks left. That's a life time.




And The usual suspects are starting their backslapping and doing victory laps once again.........3 fucking weeks out :wtf:


Those of us that was here 12 Noon Nov 4th 2004 and remember the pain we was feeling 12 hours later know what I'm talking about.

Keep making Donations and volunteer your time. we have not won shit yet............. we are not even close.


Disclamer: please be kind and disregard any grammatical mistakes on my part :)

[Danger Mouse]

1. Did you even bother to read my OP? I very explicitly remind the concerned...

that nobody is advocating 'victory laps.'
Sigh.

[Bucky]

38. Victory laps? I'm starting now!

I'll probably be too exhausted to vote afterwards, but who cares? We're bound to win!

[WeDidIt]

2. PPPTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHH

:P

We've already won. The goal now is to make the win MASSIVE. We need to CRUSH THEM FOR ALL ETERNITY.

It's no longer about winning. It's now about an opportunity to put the conservative movement into the dustbin of history with their pals the communists and fascists.

[Fluffdaddy]

6. I notice you was not here midnight after the 2004 election.

It shows in your attitude. :)

[WeDidIt]

9. I was in America in 2004. I saw the elections.

Barack Obama is not John Kerry. 2004 is not 2008.

WE HAVE ALREADY WON!

What it's all about now is CRUSHING THE PRICKS IN THE GOP!!!

Time to run up the score and make it a fucking blowout!

Now stop wringing your hands and GET TO FUCKING WORK!

[regnaD kciN]

30. Well, I was, and all I can say is...

...PPPTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHH. :P

[MoonRiver]

34. Yes. Anybody, like me, who was here knows.

I can still taste the bitterness. :(

[Every Man A King]

3. Sorry. Can't get past your Sig Line. nt

[amyrose2712]

5. I am hoping the opposite of the Bradley will occur..

racists and repigs that won't ever admit to voting for Obama.

[Liberal Dose]

7. Same here

Sig line + avatar = I am highly suspicious of anything he says

[Fluffdaddy]

10. There is proof of The Bradley Effect . No proof of a "opposite" Bradley Effect

I live in the real world based on facts

[amyrose2712]

20. I said hoping!

[cali]

22. yeah, proof that dates back a fucking quarter of a century.

no one has a clue as to whether the Bradley effect will manifest itself in this election or how influential it will be if it does come into play. It did NOT manifest itself in the primary.

[WeDidIt]

23. Where's your proof of the so-called Bradley effect being real in 2008

*crickets*

Bradley ran for governor of California TWENTY-SIX YEARS AGO!

Twenty-six years before that, African Americans were getting their heads bashed in for daring to want to vote.

Things change in twenty-six years.

[Ikonoklast]

27. Show your proof of a 'Bradley Effect'.

I'll wait. Go on, look for it. It's totally fabricated media bullshit, and you know it.

From Wiki:

Origin

L. Douglas Wilder's margin of victory in the 1989 Virginia gubernatorial election was narrower than predicted by pre-election and exit polls.In 1982, Tom Bradley, the long-time mayor of Los Angeles, California, ran as the Democratic Party's candidate for Governor of California against Republican candidate George Deukmejian, who was white. The polls in the final days before the election consistently showed Bradley with a lead.<7> Based on exit polls, a number of media outlets projected Bradley as the winner; early editions of the next day's San Francisco Chronicle featured a headline proclaiming "Bradley Win Projected." However, Bradley narrowly lost the race. Post-election research indicated that a smaller percentage of white voters actually voted for Bradley than polls had predicted, and that previously "undecided" voters had voted for Deukmejian in statistically anomalous numbers.<3><8>

A month prior to the election, Bill Roberts, Deukmejian's campaign manager, predicted that white voters would break for his candidate. He told reporters that he expected Deukmejian to receive approximately 5 percent more votes than polling numbers indicated because white voters were giving inaccurate polling responses to conceal the appearance of racial prejudice. Deukmejian disavowed Roberts's comments, and Roberts resigned his post as campaign manager.<9>

It should be noted that Bradley did win among voters on election day; Bradley lost the election overall because he lost the absentee vote badly.<10> Also, the daily tracking polls for the Deukmejian campaign showed the following weekly summations (N=1000 each) during the month of October:<10>

Week of Oct07 Oct14 Oct21 Oct28 Nov01

Bradley 49 45 46 45 45
Deukmejian 37 41 41 42 44

It is obvious that the election was closing fast. That, together with the absentee ballots, implies that the "Bradley effect" is not needed to explain Deukmejian's win.





You are fooling no one here.



Lots of 'concern' from you, always.

Lots.

[WeDidIt]

31. Look at the glaring signs

"DLC" says it all, IMO.

[Liberal Dose]

32. Yep

I haven't changed my sig line since I got here. It will always be true.

[amyrose2712]

4. I agree. Never call shutout 'til the last second ticks off the clock. nt

And, always remember they don't play by the rules.

[LeFleur1]

15. Thanks Fluffdaddy

I've been thinking the very same thing.

Get those young voters either to the polls or remind them to fill out their absentee ballot... and get it where it needs to go.
Remind the elderly to vote. There is a whopping number for Obama in my area. Don't discount them.
Provide rides to those who like to go to the polls. (For whatever warped reason). :) In my family three generations will vote the Democratic ticket.
Make sure everyone knows they can vote absentee.
Check the voting procedures in your precinct, county, state. Hound the right people about making sure the votes count and everything is pure and legal.

The ninth inning in a 3-1 ballgame isn't the time to celebrate.

[Fluffdaddy]

19. You get it. Thanks for the support

[Curtland1015]

8. Nope. Sorry. I'm confident Obama will win. Therefore I won't do a single thing until Nov 4th.

Obama will lose and it will have been all my fault.

Oh WHY didn't I despair and freak out and trust Obama less! It's all my fault!!!

[Bucky]

39. No

        It's all my fault!
No, it's the Clenis's fault.

[scheming daemons]

11. In 2004, Kerry wasn't the one with the big lead... he was behind in all the polls leading up to

the election.

[Democat]

12. Check my sig

Haven't changed it since 2004. They said we were just concern trolls (or whatever the 2004 phrase was) back then when we said that Kerry was too wimpy. :toast:

[Fluffdaddy]

18. Democat, You get it. And you remember. thanks for the support.

:)

[tekisui]

42. Obama is not Kerry, and Obama is not "wimpy".

[PBS Poll-435]

13. Better than being a Weenie-Wringing Hand, I guess

:shrug:

[BlooInBloo]

14. We all remember 2004. Fail.

[rucky]

16. If we're not obnoxious about it, there's a bandwagon effect to be had. n/t

[City of Mills]

17. I ain't superstitious

I guarantee Obama will win, will win two terms, and the Democratic party will own the whitehouse for the next 16 years at least.

[Occam Bandage]

21. "There is a possibility that things will change in the future"

is not quite the same as "I am horribly concerned that we're about to lose because of (bogus RW talking point nobody has paid attention to in three months)."

[Arkansas Granny]

24. I hear you. If too many people start acting like President Obama is

already in the bag, many of them might not turn out to vote thinking that their vote won't be needed. For that landslide to come true, we will need every vote.

[jjanpundt]

25. I remember 2004 very well. I will not get excited until Obama is

officially declared the winner (and I'm hoping for a landslide!)

[Overseas]

26. Stealing America: Vote by Vote -- has excellent footage from election night 2004

It was sad to see those numbers -- Kerry 51 to Bush 48, late at night, in Ohio, while we here at DU were getting reports in from the field about all kinds of Republican shenanigans.

During the wee hours, the vote counts, which agreed with the exit poll data after 11 p.m., changed SIX POINTS -- Kerry down three and Bush up three --- statistically very improbable -- to Bush 51, Kerry 48, and the exit poll data was ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY so the networks could be comfortable and not troubled by having to report on massive election fraud through multiple methods.

www.stealingamericathemovie.com

It is a very calm documentary. It looks at the data and patterns in 2004 and other recent elections. And examines the COMBINATION OF METHODS Republicans have used to steal recent elections, and compares those to some historical incidents too. The most improbable thing is that the only discrepancies in exit polling vs. vote counts occurred in Democratic precincts. Golly, what a coincidence ! Many times over.

For emergency info on how to get as much of our landslide as we can--

www.stealbackyourvote.com

[Undercurrent]

28. What happened

at 12 Noon Nov 4th 2004? Did I miss some great moment in history 2 days after Kerry lost the election?

:wtf:

[Fluffdaddy]

36. You got me

:shrug:

[bklyncowgirl]

29. I went out and bought a bottle of champagne based on those exit polls

I was going house to house to turn out the vote. One of the people told me that the exit polls showed that Kerry was going to win Ohio. After I finished my list I went straight to the liquor store and bought a nice bottle of champagne for the celebration.

I firmly believe that it was that bottle of champagne which threw Ohio to Bush--well that, not enough voting machines in Democratic precincts and of course Diebold

[WeDidIt]

33. I already have a bottle of Veuve Cliquot Ponsardin in my firdge.

I'm preppred for this year.

[Fluffdaddy]

35. So you was the one?

Hahahahaha :spank:

[bklyncowgirl]

37. Guilty as charged.

I'm also responsible for Reagan because I voted for Barry Commoner in 2008. Since then I've never voted 3rd Party no matter how lame the Democrat. No champagne, no third parties.

[Fluffdaddy]

41. You mean "1980" of course

:)

[Bucky]

40. Am I the only one in this thread bothered by the thought of a "hand wringing weenie"?

Seriously, this thread is making me cross my legs and wince.

[lolamio]

43. I agree with you...

I am a little superstitious by nature, and I won't rest until November 5th. I feel like I'll be holding my breath through these next three weeks. In my heart, I know Obama can do this, but I am still anxious. I am working, though, and I won't give up. Thanks for your post! :)