John Lewis did his job and did it well...

[PCIntern]

the reference to Wallace was the Ace of Trumps...it got the idiots sputtering on the other side and put them on the defensive; "We're not segregationist racists, honest!" - if anyone tries that racial crap again, the first idea in everyone's head will be, "does this qualify as something Wallace might say?" Those who are too young to recall him will only imagine what he must have said.

It was a fascinating tactic...and it worked.

[Cha]

1. It was extra fascinating because john mccain called

John Lewis one of the 3 Wisest people he knew.

[YDogg]

3. true dat

[YDogg]

2. i have no problem at all with Rep Lewis and what he said. He called out the haters, and they don't

like the bright light of truthiness. Wallace was a fucking cancer, in spite of his late-in-life "turnaraound" (scared of the flames of hell, anyone??). Somehow I want to believe Wallace, Falwell, Helms, and Thurmond are spending a lot of time together these days, smack dab in Hades.

[ClassWarrior]

4. I am not a crook!!

Don't think of an elephant!!

Job well done indeed, Mr. Lewis.

:toast:

NGU.

[underpants]

5. I am reading Allen Raymond's "How to Rig an election" right now

p. 106

It's still one the top-line message that gets through. Everything else is ignored.

I can't find the other quote but basically if you are responding or trying to fix something you are lost. The other party has already moved on and you will be on you heals for the forseeable future

Interesting Read. I highly recommend it.

[AllieB]

6. Does Raymond have any remorse? I've heard of his book.

I'm curious if he feels any shame that he subverted democracy.

[underpants]

9. A lot

He points out proudly that he had NOTHING to do with W "winning" in 2000 in fact he teased in one of the first chapters that cohorts of his did steal it but that is more of known-inside-political-circles more than anything else.

He constantly refers to "knuckledraggers" "mouth breathers" etc about the Republican base. He was going to work for whomever gave him his first job and he saw himself as a hired gun.

The part I just got through was his getting Martini elected in NJ in 1994 and then how they were completely ignored/slapped by the Southern Insurgency (Newt and the southerners with some midwest and mountain staters mixed in) they had no respect or use for Northern Republicans. Apparently NY Republicans raise their own money thank you very much so the complete dislike between Southern Repubs and NY Repubs is mutual.

Raymond actually really like Haley Barbour. Partly because he gave him his first big job (Mid Atlantic for the RNC-rescuing Raymond from being Martini's Chief of Staff) and because Barbour was ruthlessly good at his job.

[rch35]

7. "Those who are too young to recall him will only imagine what he must have said."

Yes, us people too young for that era. If only there was some sort of... mass information tool where we could perhaps, learn things about times in which we weren't alive? It would be like some sort of massive... net of information..

Crazy future talk

[msongs]

8. google - the mass information tool george wallace segregationist nt

[rch35]

12. i'm not sure what youre trying to get across there

my post was sarcastic, not out of spite, just a love for sarcasm.

im not sure if youre telling me that google is a mass information tool, which i know
im not sure if youre just posting random words that apply to this thread.



im just saying clarity is a wonderful thing.

[PCIntern]

10. I understand and respect your post...

but people who were not around cannot, absolutely cannot understand how this man's bigotry pervaded the society. Before he was shot, he was winning Republican Primaries in the north and there was not a day that went by that his ugly face wasn't on TV and he was quoted extensively in the newspapers. He was as powerful a figure, as dominant a figure as you could be and not occupy the White House.

[rch35]

11. i know what you mean, im just prone to sarcasm, im sorry.

I dont mean any insult or anything :)

[PCIntern]

13. Thanks...none taken, really

it's just that things were pretty horrible in "the good old days".

[rch35]

16. yeah, my mom grew up in the bay area, and shes told me a few stories

about being in town shopping when all of a sudden riots would break out, or martial law would be called.

[morillon]

15. If he hadn't been shot...

...he would have had a serious chance at winning the White House. ::shiver::

[morillon]

14. I love John Lewis.

My mom, who lives in an even more conservative part of Georgia than we do, once sent him a letter saying how much she admired him and how she wished he were her representative in Congress.

In the winter after the stolen election of 2000, he gave a speech at an office complex where I worked. Many in the audience were moved to tears. His words that day were a big part of helping me get through that very dismal time.