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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 03:41 PM
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This is what triggered the nightmare of the last eight years
Edited on Sun Oct-12-08 03:41 PM by ProSense
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 03:48 PM
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1. Yep, this is where it all started to unravel
At that point, I knew we were screwed.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 03:58 PM
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3. I can't stand to hear
people say Gore lost. He was't installed in the WH, but if not for the SCOTUS and Florida's corrupt political system, this would be the end of Gore's second term.

Republicans are full of shit. It's not their political prowess or sound ideas that resulted in their ability to take the WH. If not for GOP fraud, Democrats would be ending their 16th (fourth term and looking forward to a possible fifth term) year in the WH.

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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 04:24 PM
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5. The absolute truth!
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 03:48 PM
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2. December 12, 2000 -- a day that will live in infamy
The day America died.
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volstork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 04:01 PM
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4. Not to worry, Obama
has the paddles and is ready to revive!


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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 04:40 PM
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7. Absolutely.
nt
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 04:28 PM
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6. The single most poorly reasoned opinion in the history of the Court.
Bar none. And not just because I didn't like the result, simply as a legal opinion, it is disgraceful.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 04:42 PM
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8. well after Dred Scott
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 05:43 PM
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9. The result in Dred Scott was more odious
and certainly the stated beliefs of Judge Taney were more reprehensible, but in the abstract I would say the reasoning of the decision itself was no more capricious and lacking in any discernible legal analysis than was Bush v. Gore.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 08:57 PM
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10. I would disagree because it transcended a metaphysical argument that
a person could become a thing because of a piece of paper.
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Doc_Technical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:04 PM
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11. How about a thing becomming a person.
Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 10:32 PM
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13. I don't know anything about metaphysics
and I am in no way comparing the ideas espoused in Dred Scott; I am talking merely about legal analysis or lack thereof.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 09:12 PM
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12. And on that day, I heard Al Gore give an absolutely riveting concession speech.
Humble, honest and patriotic.

And he delivered a line in that speech that made me bawl that night, and that still bring tears to my eyes:

"As for the battle that ends tonight, I do believe, as my father once said, that no matter how hard the loss, defeat may serve as well as victory to shake the soul and let the glory out."

Al Gore has spent the last 8 years letting the glory out. He has fought for our environment and our party, and has won an Oscar and a Nobel prize.

George W. Bush has effed up EVERY SINGLE THING HE HAS TOUCHED. So who really had the bad karma... and which man do you think is happy being who he is right now?
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