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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:09 PM
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Gallup narrows slightly: Obama 50, McCain 43
No big deal IMO; still seems to be in line with most polls, and I wouldn't be surprised if the race narrows a little as we get to the finish line.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/111064/Gallup-Daily-ObamaMcCain-Gap-Narrows.aspx
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:10 PM
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1. THEY NEED TO HIT BACK HARDER ON THE CHARACTER ATTACKS !!
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:11 PM
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Relax.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:19 PM
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20. it would be sad...
if McShit got closer in the polls because of his below the belt attacks...Obama certainly has alot of trash he can dump on McCain...McCain aint no saint that he should get away with trashing Obama day after day.
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SuperTrouper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:10 PM
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2. I expect Gallup to be Obama51% McSame 47% by election day
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:15 PM
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16. Do folks realize what sort of electoral landslide we will see on Election Day
if Obama wins the pop vote by four % points?
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:11 PM
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3. I think they are intentionally narrowing it
so when the convert to likely voters instead of just registered voters it remains more inline.
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jezebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:14 PM
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12. they actually today also started doing likely voter models. In 1 obama is up 4 in the other Obama is
up 6
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:24 PM
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23. The second is obviously closer, but knowing them..
they will probably play up the first.
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nyhuskyfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:11 PM
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4. I'd rather the trend not get closer at the moment...
The last thing we need is anyone getting evidence that ludicrous smears are effective in driving the polls.
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Madam Mossfern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:13 PM
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10. Don't Panic!
...as long as you remembered your towel.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:13 PM
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11. Delete.
Edited on Sun Oct-12-08 12:14 PM by Hope And Change
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darius15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:11 PM
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5. Gallup is now in line with other pollsters showing a 6-8 point lead. No need to worry.
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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:15 PM
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15. Agreed.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:12 PM
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6. Yep, the gap between different polls is centering on 6-7%
Which is fine IMO. If Obama went itno election day with a 6% poll lead, it would end up as a landslide and closer to a 9% win as people on McCains side give up and don't bother to vote.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:12 PM
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7. I'm pleased that we haven't dropped below 50. And I agree, it will probably
narrow again before it widens. I'm not getting as flipped out about the polls as I used to -- probably because in virtually every one, we're leading.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:15 PM
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17. According to their 2nd "likely voters" polling, he's leading 51%-45%.
That's good. He's over 50%.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:17 PM
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18. And that model factors in "intention" as well as past voting behavior...
which is more reasonable given the huge numbers of first-time voters Obama is reeling in.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:20 PM
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21. Exactly. And the fact that Obama is over 50% in THAT model should
comfort us. All the polls which don't add up to 100% WILL close up, but as long as Obama's over 50%, he's gonna win.
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:12 PM
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8. MOE fluctuations.. the 11 point lead was to high... 7-8 seems to be the average lead right now
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:12 PM
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9. Did you see their new polling models?:
"Obama's current advantage is slightly less when estimating the preferences of likely voters, which Gallup will begin reporting on a regular basis through the election. Gallup is providing two likely voter estimates to take into account different turnout scenarios.

The first likely voter model is based on Gallup's traditional likely voter assumptions, which determine respondents' likelihood to vote based on how they answer questions about their current voting intention and past voting behavior. According to this model, Obama's advantage over McCain is 50% to 46% in Oct. 9-11 tracking data.

The second likely voter estimate is a variation on the traditional model, but is only based on respondents' current voting intention. This model would take into account increased voter registration this year and possibly higher turnout among groups that are traditionally less likely to vote, such as young adults and racial minorities (Gallup will continue to monitor and report on turnout indicators by subgroup between through the election). According to this second likely voter model, Obama has a 51% to 45% lead over McCain."
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:14 PM
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14. Those likely voter models are kind of garbage. That second one is fine.
That first one is nonsense. It would never take into account new voters.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:18 PM
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19. I agree. The second one is more in line with who will vote and favors Obama 51%-45%.
Edited on Sun Oct-12-08 12:18 PM by jenmito
I'll take it.
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Captiosus Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:14 PM
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13. Just keep in mind:
Both MSNBC and CNN have been covering their asses the last two days bringing up race and the Bradley Effect and pundits on both stations have said "race may costs Obama 6 percentage points on election day".

So if the race gets within 6 points, it gives the repukes the green light on stealing the election because the media has already put the message out in public.
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optimisticin08 Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:22 PM
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22. this is why i dont believe the daily kos poll
all other polls are getting closer.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:26 PM
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24. No, Zogby has widened
Hotline also has recently. Gallup is just getting closer to the other polls. If it gets closer, which I don't expect right now, it's pretty clear that Obama should step up the defense while playing a little offense at the same time.
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optimisticin08 Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:34 PM
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25. but mccain had a horrible week last week
and the polls are getting closer. gallup went from 11 to 7 in a week. very disturbing.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:36 PM
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26. Average of all polls has gone up in the last couple days
And the Gallup thing is not disturbing yet; it has had a lot of fluctuation.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:39 PM
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27. now if I made a post like yours...
i would be attacked for about 45 minutes straight so I will keep quiet...

:-)
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:47 PM
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30. As you should be.
ONE fucking poll has McCain cutting a large 11 point lead down to a large 7 point lead and people take this as proof of every poll showing a tightening race?

You've got to fucking be kidding me.
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:46 PM
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29. Wow, please change your fucking name.
You make me want to slam my head through a window.

There is not one poll that shows it getting "closer". Gallup is just aligning with the rest of the polls.

Rasmussen has Obama about where he's been.
Research 2000, the same.
Zogby, the same.

Yeesh.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 12:42 PM
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28. That narrowed lead worried me at first, till I checked other polls
It seems that Rasmussen is still pretty consistent, with Obama at 51%, and McCain at 45%. For the last like week their polling has had Obama between 50% and 52%, and McCain between 44% and 45%.
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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 02:26 PM
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31. If McCain gets to within 4-5 points by Wednesday's debate
He could succeed in turning this back into a horserace.

Let's face it, McCain endured about as bad a 3 week period as a candidate ever has. That he's still standing suggest to me that this is more of a race than we might want. He's already absorbed the worst shock to his campaign that he's going to absorb.

I hope that Obama is more aggressive and assertive in the final debate. This is no time for prevent defense and conservative play it safe don't blow the lead offense. IMHAO (in my humble amateur's opinion.)
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 02:28 PM
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32. As usual
You don't know jack shit.
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kennetha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 02:29 PM
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33. Wow!
Do you talk to your mother with that mouth?
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 05:16 PM
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34. McSame not gaining, ithought Gallup was a bit high actually
Obama looks to have a consistent 6 to 7% lead on all the other polls. I doubt its an 11 point lead. Seems to be about where it should be.
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