I've Been Laughing at the Freepers, But This is just PATHETIC

[WeDidIt]

It's almost sad, even.

Almost.

They are now fully pinning all hopes on...

wait for it...

BARACK OBAMA ISN'T A US CITIZEN!!!

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This could be the game changer (American Thinker covers BO's Birth Certificate)WARNING: You MUST SHOWER IF YOU CLICK!!

The idiots have no frickin' clue:



Direct Link to Factcheck.org's article where they validate Obama's birth certificate

It's been a dead issue for months, and they are pinning their hopes on it.

THAT CRACKS ME THE FUCK UP! Let the idiots waste time and energy ona red herring of their own creation, and then they can go looking for Larry Johnson's alleged tape after they trot out Larry Sinclair.

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[Liberalboy]

1. Sigh...

Obama's more of a citizen then McCain. The Panama Canal Zone? Oh for fuck's sake!

[McCCain4retirment]

2. give em a break

They haven't figure out yet that Hawaii is a state

[justiceischeap]

3. If we could only produce McClan's birth certificate

Wasn't he born in Panama?

[Marsala]

9. McCain's certificate? That papyrus crumbled ages ago

And the copy in the Library of Alexandria was destroyed in that tragic fire.

[KathieG]

26. LOL

:rofl:

[DevonRex]

65. Um, NO. The original was chiseled on the wall of a cave somewhere

in France. :)

[JaneQPublic]

13. Yes, McSame was born in Panama. Ironic, ain't it? (nt)

[nxylas]

16. The Panama Canal Zone

It's a US territory and defined as part of the United States in the relevant laws governing citizenship.

[Realityhack]

19. Not quite...

their is a technical wording issue. But the intent is fairly clear.

[jberryhill]

28. McCain was NOT born in the Canal Zone

He was born in a civilian hospital in Colon, Panama. He was not born on Coco Solo base, and he was not born in the Zone.

Colon was specifically EXCLUDED from the Canal Zone.

Now I'll have to go dig up the map that was posted before, showing the Canal Zone boundary.

[TooRaLoo]

46. So THAT's what's wrong with him.

I've heard of having one's head up his ass, but being BORN in Colon?

[jberryhill]

47. Heh... I never thought of that...

It's an unusual complication of childbirth, apparently.

[beac]

55. That sure is a lot of furrin' language on that there certiffycut!

How elitist!

[jberryhill]

68. We should demand that John McCain release an English-Only birth certificate, LOL /nt

[Starbucks Anarchist]

27. He's so old, his birth certificate was written in the stars.

[jberryhill]

29. Ask and ye shall receive

[dgibby]

37. Yes.

Well documented. His father was stationed there (Navy),so he is considered Native Born American; however, there seems to be some legal dispute about that.

US military bases are considered to be "US soil" with one notable exception, that being GITMO, ergo the rational for keeping enemy combatents there.

My question is: How can this be? Either all bases are US soil, or they're not. If they are, then GITMO is, without a doubt, illegal. If they're not, then John McCain is illegal. Either way, there seems to be a big problem.

[jberryhill]

48. He wasn't born on base

He was born in a civilian Panamanian hospital in Colon, which was NOT in the Panama Canal Zone.

It's not a "legal dispute" - he wasn't born in US territory, and he was born before the law was changed concerning children born to US citizens abroad.

There was a Senate Resolution that was introduced to retroactively cover this issue - sponsored by Obama and Clinton among others. It failed to pass.

[dgibby]

50. Sooooooooo,

If we send him to GITMO, will that take care of both problems?:evilgrin:

[jberryhill]

54. The Gitmo rulings are particularly ironic in this context, yes /nt

[begin_within]

49. Found it:

[crazy_vanilla]

67. ROFLOL

That looks like it :rofl:

[jazzjunkysue]

4. Poor freepers. They just can't catch up.

:nopity:

[Zookeeper]

5. Yeah. It's part of their latest misinformation campaign.

The nutjobs on the FAUX news forum have been harping on that for days.

Somehow, they can't bring themselves to respond to the fact that John McCain was born in Panama.

Freeper/Fundie are so desperate and desperately stupid.

[my3boyz]

6. McCain was born on foreign soil not Obama. YES I know

his dad was in the military and that he was born on a base. Yet Republicans want to make a big deal about Obama being born in an exotic place, well McCain was not born in continental U.S. and I'm sure he traveled all over the world as the child of military personnel too........

[TankLV]

57. mcINSANE was NOT born "on base" he was born OUTSIDE the base in a local hospital

so mcINSANE is NOT A US CITIZEN!!!

obama is...

[BuyingThyme]

7. They should just accuse him of changing the date.

They'd have an easier time convincing people that he's only 28 years old.

[calmblueocean]

8. Haha, I know. I've been hearing them try this, too. The Factcheck article whups their ass.

What's really funny is that some of them will go on and on about needing to see Obama's "long form" birth certificate, but right on the short form, it says, "This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."

That pretty much says it all!

Really, I don't think this is even about winning. It's just conspiracy garbage so wingnut writers can sell hate books about Obama to the gullible Freeps.

[and-justice-for-all]

10. Morons...

Why would that be a game changer? He was born in fucking Hawaii! McFascist was born in fucking Panama. Those people are so desperate, it is truly sad and pathetic.

[liberalpragmatist]

11. Some wingnut is now claiming Bill Ayres wrote "Dreams From My Father"

Seriously.

[calmblueocean]

36. They should call that website "American Idiot".

It's hilarious that someone spent so much time proving so much nothing. It's especially funny that he thinks that Obama couldn't have written Dreams because Obama "isn't a good writer". Like he's never listened to the speeches Obama has written and delivered in public?

God, I'd forgotten just how crazy these idiots get. It's been a long time since Clinton was president. Guess we've got 8 years of this to look forward to. :)

[yardwork]

63. Hilarious, considering that all chimpy's books were ghost-written.

The Republicans accuse others of doing what they do. Always. All we have to do is listen to their accusations, and then we know exactly what they're doing.

Radical in Obama's past? Actually, the anti-Americans are the ones in Palin's past, and McCain's.
Questionable birth certificate? McCain.
Crazy pastor? See Palin and McCain.

And on and on.

[bleever]

12. Doubling down on a losing hand,

just like their candidate.

[gateley]

14. This isn't the first time they've gotten all lathered about this. You'd think since

this was dealt with before and dismissed, they'd try to find something new. They keep recycling the old stuff.

[Zookeeper]

18. Yes, they just keep repeating the same, tired talking points....

Even when you answer them directly with evidence to the contrary, they just ignore it and keep repeating the meme.

It's their job.

[Fire1]

15. The latest is, "we want to see the ORIGINAL birth certificate.

And I told one fascist, if the certificate he provided is good enough for the U.S. government it's certainly good enough for you.

[RBInMaine]

17. THEY ARE CRAZY IDIOTS !

[crossroads]

20. hahahahahahaha

Grasping at straws! How sweet it is!
CR

[BlooInBloo]

21. They're drowning! Quick! Somebody throw them an anvil!

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[rurallib]

25. they are screwn.

[kwenu]

31. Don't be stingy...throw 'em two.

[jberryhill]

69. Someone already has...

...that's the funny part. They don't realize they've been had, and have been running the crazy bus on fumes far longer than anyone thought they would.

[FloridaGrl]

22. Yawn...

these people need to find new material. All I saw on the video were allegations- Obama didn't not show me his birth certificate so he must be a fraud- wah wah wah. Then even if he was born in the US (even though I just said he wasn't) since he went to Indonesia he gave up his citizenship. Grasping at straws!

[4lbs]

61. That reasoning of the freepers is totally fall-down hilarious.

Even if he was born in the U.S., that he went to Indonesia he gave up his citizenship.

:rofl:




I guess then, any U.S. citizen that takes a trip to Europe or Japan gives up their citizenship. :sarcasm:

[calmblueocean]

23. This Philip J. Berg is a real character. He was fined and sanctioned $10,000 for "unethical actions"

Actually, the full quote is "a laundry list of unethical actions", but that wouldn't fit on the subject line.

"Other attorneys should look to Mr. Berg's actions as a blueprint for what not to do when attempting to effectively and honorably perform the duties of the legal profession," US District Court Judge J. Curtis Joyner wrote when he sanctioned him in 2005.

"This court has grown weary of Mr. Berg's continuous and brazen disrespect toward this court and his own clients. Mr. Berg's actions ... are an enormous waste of judicial time and resources that this court cannot, in good conscience, allow to go unpunished," Joyner wrote.

Joyner blasted Berg in 2005, calling his fraud claim then an "irresponsible decision" because the claim was "utterly barren of any scintilla of legal principles."

That's pretty harsh. Sounds like he's up to his old tricks.

More here: http://www.yestodemocracy.com/yes_to_democracy_no_to_pu/2008/08/wingnuts-away-.html


Also, his legal thinking on display in that video has holes big enough to walk a moose through. (And save it from Sarah Palin!)

I love that Mr. I'm-an-independent-filmmaker who introduces that video helpfully neglects to tell us any of the ethics charges against Berg, or provide any attempt to show balance. This is what I hate about the YouTube era -- mendacious schemers use YouTube to spread their lies to gullible people faster than the truth can get around.

[PatGund]

34. Thank you!

As the person who wrote "Wingnuts Away", thanks for the link. I've been regularly updating the "Berg/COLB" story there for a while now.

And if you think the legal thinking in the video has holes in it, you should take a look at the actual court documents!! OMG.

A good analysis is at http://whatsyourevidence.com/

[calmblueocean]

38. haha.. I love DU. :-)

You never know who you're going to meet here.

This whole kerfuffle seems pretty cut and dry to me. The birth certificate Obama has presented states on its face that it is to be considered prima facie proof of birth in any court proceeding. As long as it's been properly authenticated by the state of Hawaii, it's game, set, match.

But this is really more about selling conspiracy and rage to frustrated wingnuts than anything else. They just want a way to nurse their grudge over the next 8 years, and this is gonna be it.

[beac]

56. Great website! Bookmarked. n/t

[rurallib]

24. Maybe someday SNL will just read FR on the air

Well it looks like Rush & Sean & Mike (who's Mike) are going to pick this up next week because the dutiful citizens of FR have so directed them.
Best I can tell based the reporting there, Obama was born in Hawaii, Kenya and Indonesia. Hawaii of course was not as yet a state. They had probably decided to take a year off of that state stuff after a couple years. There were eyewitnesses for each of these births.
I sometimes think they are just out to top the Onion.
What surprises me is they have yet to figure out that Obama's mother was really a man because her given name was Stanley. Once they find that out hold on to your ballots, that will be the scandal of scandals.
Now to the bath.

[Zookeeper]

30. 'Not sure about SNL. It turns out that Lorne Michael is a Rethug.

:(

[WinkyDink]

52. Really?! OMG, too weird.

[WallStreetNobody]

32. I LOVE IT - LET'S HOPE THEY KEEP IT UP!

Seriously, they look so stupid and if they keep doing things like this the vast majority of the country will see them for what they are - nothing but a bunch of radical loonies.

[Lord Helmet]

33. I read that crap here during the primaries from Hilary supporters.

[AspenRose]

35. PUMAs maybe, but not true HRC supporters.

[Sebastian Doyle]

40. Regardless of whether it was really Team Hillary or Team Shoe Cult

The fact is that all this crap was thrown at the wall in the primaries and none of it stuck then. Considering that Mark Penn of Team Hillary and Charlie Black of Team McCain were business partners, I find it really hard to believe that Team McCain didn't know that all this bullshit had been brought up in the primaries. Only the ACORN crap is "new" and that's just regurgitated crap that they try in every election cycle.

[jberryhill]

70. "regurgitated crap"?

Umm, man, that's just, umm, wow.... interesting phrase.

[progressoid]

39. I've seen comments on other sites about this - They are counting on this as their October surprise.

They're nucking futs.

[Chulanowa]

41. Yes, that's sad... And WTF is with their donation image?

Is it just because the song "Money" is on that album? Retarded.

[CitizenPatriot]

42. no no wait for it I just got into a fight with one of them on youtube

and he told me factcheck was owned by democrats who ran the board where Obama met Ayers.

I suggested they try the google and snopes, but both of those have also apparently been hi-jacked by Liberals.

I then suggested he sounded "fringy" and asked him if he saw space men in the sky?

he then told me this is why people hate liberals, we think we are so smart, and then suggested I was such a "bitch" I should punch Palin in the stomach.

No idea what he was talking about there, as no violence had been alluded to and certainly no name calling (until his).

I told him to stay "klassy" and that maybe the KKK rallies were rubbing off on him -- but heads up, threatening violence wasn't too cool outside of fringe world.

FLINSTONES: Not a TV show! a Freeper Dream!

Still laughing. Calling them fringy is just giving me so much pleasure. Apparently they think the entire world is a conspiracy theory....Along with global warming, etc.

[PatGund]

62. Yep.....

That's their claim alright. FactCheck and Snopes are "shilling for Obama" and can't be trusted. They've been calling for an "unbiased" source, (i.e. one that supports their biases instead of the truth)

[CitizenPatriot]

64. what is so fun about this

in a perverse way is to then call them tin foil hatters and fringers.

You know, like they've been calling us for the past 8 years without cause. Facts have a liberal bias:-)

[HughMoran]

43. We'd try that too if the chips were down

So, I'm gonna give 'em a pass on this one.

[Erin Elizabeth]

44. I would encourage them in this.

It's not a practical use of their time at ALL. In fact, that's just a nice way of saying it's a total waste of time. Which is why they should be encouraged to continue.

Yes, indeed, where IS this strange-sounding HONOLULU place? Sounds like it's on MARS. That's it! He's an ACTUAL ALIEN!!!

:rofl:

[madeline_con]

45. "Game changer" is Freeperese for "Obama will hand us our asses".

"But you can get people to watch 11 minutes of interesting video raising a slew of questions for Obama, in fact cornering him, on the question of his birth, citizenship, and eligibility for office as POTUS under the Constitution. Especially if people start talking about the video. It's called viral distribution. A friend emails an Obama-supporting friend and dares him or her to watch."

Ooooh! Dare me to watch!

[WinkyDink]

51. How do these people find the "ON" button for their computers?

[beac]

53. Their moms turn them on for them when delivering their breakfasts to the basement.

And off again at night after potty, prayers and tuck-in.

[TankLV]

60. they use the same free hand they use when reaching for the Kleenax

when they go back to the sites they spend the most of their time on...

[aaaaaa5a]

58. It looks like Hanni ty just found the next topic for his show! LOL n/t

[johnaries]

59. Oh, that's NOTHING! Check this out!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7410554&mesg_id=7410554

It inspired me to post this in GD:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4219045&mesg_id=4219045

I so hope some FReeper troll reads that thread!

[spanone]

66. sex....'masc.'?

[Tesibria]

71. Laugh - But Be Prepared

Until today, this has not been reported by the MSM (unless you count Washington Times and WorldNetDaily as "MSM").

However, an Ohio Fox Affiliate (Toledo) ran a segment on the story TWICE today.

We can fully expect that, as the republicans get more and more "desperate" given the polls, they will continue to reach for these types of stories.

So - be prepared, is all I'm saying. And - when you get questions about the complaint, consider checking WhatsYourEvidence.com, for links you can include in your responsive posts and/or e-mail responses.