Recommend If You Don't Give a Crap About Sarah Palin's SAT Scores

[NashVegas]

And if you understand that our nominee, Barack Obama, is running against John McCain.

[TwilightGardener]

1. Can't recommend. I don't think it's the news of the century, but if they're real, she's

pretty fucking dim. Fits the narrative very nicely.

[dbmk]

14. Don't say that people are dim based on SAT scores alone

Paul Wellstone scored under 800, fx.

In this case though, it does complete a picture.

[cdb]

2. Dont care. Probably photoshopped anyhow n/t

[phleshdef]

3. Recommended. If we care about anything Palin specific at the moment, it should be the TG report...

Otherwise, we should be worried about the economy and making sure Barack Obama gets elected so that he can begin fixing it.

[NashVegas]

6. Too True

But we're easily distracted by pretty graphics, I suppose.

[lamp_shade]

4. ok

[npincus]

5. right... why attack the credibility of a harpie who calls Obama a terrorist-by-association?

I DO give a crap that she is a fucking sub-par dumb-ass and am doing everything possible to dessiminate it.

[NashVegas]

7. It's a Distraction

Barack Obama is not running against Sarah Palin. Barack Obama is running against John McCain.

And anyway, all those Dan Quayle jokes never stopped Poppy from getting to the White House.

[npincus]

12. no one is asking Barack to do it... why not stop Tina Fey, by your logic?

Discredit, debunk, and destroy.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

13. What, Me Worry? about the SAT scores of someone who could become President?

I think her SAT scores are relevant. Obama is running against both McCain and his potential fill-in as President in case something should happen to him. Even if McCain were only half as bad as he is, there'd be the prospect of a Palin presidency if McCain won. I'd never get a good night's sleep knowing Palin's finger is within reach of the nuclear button and her End Times dreams.

[npincus]

25. You said it!!! A retarded Chimp charged us into Iraq... imagine what "End of Days" Palin would do!!

She scares the crap out of me, frankly. She is crazy and stupid as hell, just the kind of Republican that seems to get elected these days.

Likewise, the fact that Obama was the Editor of his Hardvard Law Review is pretty goddamned relevant-- to me. I want the SMARTEST guy/gal in the room to be MY president.

[bettyellen]

8. i think it's better than accusing her of being a slut for wearing a tank top under a jkt

or god forbid, red shoes!

[johnaries]

9. There are too many other things

that we can focus on that are more relevent. SAT scores don't mean anything.

[thewiseguy]

10. Actually I do give a damn. She is running for VP.

[TwilightGardener]

11. She's running for President. The old man won't last a full term.

[crossroads]

15. Good point! nt

[NashVegas]

17. May Very Well Be, But Voters Don't See It That Way

If Obama makes the tragic mistake of allowing himself to be lowered to playing against the junior partner on the Republican ticket, he loses.

[TwilightGardener]

23. I'm not sure why you think disseminating her SAT scores equates her

in any way with the top of our ticket. She gets tons of media attention, she's the reason most of the GOP base is even remotely interested in this election--but the realization that there's only mush between her ears dropped McStupid's poll numbers--why not add a little more juice to that? If the GOP had something good on Biden, they wouldn't hesitate to use it.

[TwilightGardener]

30. By the way, Dan Quayle, once labeled stupid, never had a political career

after the VP slot--he was ruined. We can do the same to her, now--take her out as an infamous moron and nip her national political aspirations in the bud for good.

[yardwork]

28. Who is talking about Obama. We're a bunch of anonymous posters on the internet.

I don't understand this "Anything posted on DU = Obama's campaign strategy" anxiety around here. We aren't that important. Really.

[petgoat]

31. Obama's running against Palin. McCain won't last. You've heard of "Big Brother."

When McCain's gone, what will Palin's role be?

Naomi Wolf points out that stylist consistencies suggest
that Palin is a designated Bushcist and McCain is an outsider,
and suggests that with McCain out of the way, Palin will
appoint a strongman Vice President as CEO of the USA, and
she'll spend her time traveling around doing talk shows to
explain to America why we need a fascist theocracy and we
needn't worry about arcane stuff like rights and Constitutional
impediments to expedience.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/the-battle-plan-ii-sarah_b_128393.html

It's easy to imagine that Palin won't exactly be the President, but
will humbly acknowledge she is not equipped for the role. In reforming
the command structure to de-emphasize the Presidency, she will echo
what a famous politician did in Europe in the 1930s when an honored
elder statesman died. Rather than ascend to the Presidency himself,
this leader created a new office for himself and the office of the
Presidency was declared dormant.

Just as Americans seem unable to recognize fascism unless it wears
funny mustaches and <i>speeks mit ze funny accent</i>, they will be
unable to recognize Big Brother when he comes in the form of a woman.

Palin won't be "Big Sister," exactly, nor "Big Momma."

"Big MILF" is something brand new. It's racy, it's alluring. It's
Paris Hilton and George Bush rolled into one. Welcome to the Brave
New World, America!

[TwilightGardener]

34. Yeah, I read that Wolf article--it's a little paranoid, but I think there's some

truth to it.

[petgoat]

43. I agree about the paranoia. I was utterly dismayed about the part about her mail.

Even if it's true that somebody has been messing with her daughter's
letters from summer camp, it's extremely poor politics to discuss
stuff like that in public. It's divisive. Wolf admirers will seize
on this evidence of evil conspiracies, while most Americans will use
it as an excuse to reject her ideas. "Nobody's messing with my mail,
therefore nobody's messing with hers and she's a nutcase."

We see this kind of self-sabotage in the 9/11 Truth movement far
too often.

[RaleighNCDUer]

38. My thoughts exactly. nt

[rateyes]

16. If she has a low SAT, it's probably because she has a low IQ, which

means that more Republicans can relate to her.

[Captiosus]

47. That's a bad generalization

This will sound egotistical, but I'm proof that your statement is just a generalization.

My SAT scores in 1994: 860 combined (450 verbal, 410 math)
Final HS Graduation GPA: 3.28.
My IQ, tested via the WAIS-III exam in 2002 when I was seeing a psychotherapist: 132.

There's some folks out there, like myself, who hate standardized testing and do terrible on them even though they could do much better. I don't think the SAT really promotes critical thought. Critical thought can't be measured by an exam that gives you A, B, C, or D multiple choice questions.

[slackmaster]

50. IQ tests are even more racially and culturally biased than the SAT

:nuke:

[TTUBatfan2008]

18. All I'll say is...

making fun of a candidate's intelligence doesn't necessarily go over very well with swing voters. A lot of them are pretty normal folks and they might even see a poor SAT score as proof that Palin is "one of them." This political strategy worked for George W. Bush.

[Supersedeas]

66. agreed

[Marrah_G]

19. I only care in the sense that I enjoy mocking her inadequency..

:toast:

[wndycty]

20. Exactly

:kick:

[Madam Mossfern]

21. What were they?

Did I miss something?

[NashVegas]

29. I Forget

:)

[rvablue]

22. K &R because Gawker (the source) says they are fake. n/t

[thewiseguy]

32. Link?

[rvablue]

45. It was in a title post that I read earlier on DU. n/t

[ericgtr]

24. No REC here - She's dumber than a bag of hammers and it should be out there for all to see

Dumb ass church lady trying to take over the highest office in the country. Yes, this is most definitely relevant.

[gauguin57]

26. I pretty much discount anything a candidate did up till they were about 25

(provided their life since has shown evolution).

I don't care about anything Sarah Palin did when she was a teen or her early 20s. I do cite her getting pregnant before she married Todd (which happened in their mid-20s, I believe) only because it seems to run in that "abstinence-only" family. I don't care about her SATs ... I care about the lying, hypocritical, neocon creep she is today.

It's easy to be silly, unfocused, drippy, boozy, druggy and stupid when you're young. For many people, that's the only chance you get to be silly, unfocused, drippy, boozy, druggy and stupid -- because you have to start being responsible by your mid-20s.

Like Barack Obama ... he admits he was unfocused, didn't care much about school, tried drugs etc. when he was a teenager.

But he has spent his life since then working to build a life for his family, dedicate himself to public service and work for the future of this country.

If McCain had stopped being an ass after his low grades, womanizing, gambling, boozing and crashing a few planes right out of the Naval academy, I'd admire him, too. But he didn't ... he becomes more of an ass every week!

[yardwork]

27. Considering that she may become president, I think her intelligence is relevant.

I don't care about the SAT scores and the report may or may not be real, but Palin's intelligence - and stunning lack thereof - is absolutely relevant. Look what having a dumb president has gotten us.

[NashVegas]

35. I'm Sure, But She's Not Running For President Right Now

Republicans run their campaigns based almost entirely on marketing strategies that were disseminated to media in the 1980s.

One of the tricks is to make a target of someone VERY huge and successful and repeatedly pick at them until they acknowledge you. If they fall into the trap, YOU win.

The Obama team will do better to thump McCain for choosing Palin as his running mate than they will if they attack her, directly.

[TwilightGardener]

37. Jesus, for the second or third time--the Obama team will not touch this--we are NOT

the Obama team. And this doesn't even BEGIN to fall under the category of "scurrilous" personal/family smear, either.

[NashVegas]

42. Funny. All Spring I Was Told Something Different Right Here

And yes, it does fall under "smear," as the pic is apparently a forgery.

[yardwork]

52. Yes, she is running for president. That's the only role of the vice president.

As VP, her responsibility would be to step in as president at a moment's notice.

[DevonRex]

65. This has nothing to do with Obama. VOTERS need to know as much

as possible about the intelligence of the candidates.

[ecstatic]

33. You know what? Maybe if she didn't say Obama would diminish the prestige of

the office of presidency, or maybe if she wasn't riling up racists and nutjobs into calling for Obama's head I would not give a f*ck about Ms Wasilla's score. :mad: But you know what? She DID do those things, and I can't waste one single moment of my time feeling empathy for a low life disgusting piece of shit like Mrs. Palin. Thank you very much.

[Curtland1015]

36. Alternate Title: "Recommend if you got low SAT scores"

:P

Just kidding, just kidding.

[terrya]

39. I'm tired of intellectual lightweights running this country.

I will not recommend your thread. For once, I would appreciate having something close to "the best and brightest" at the highest echelons of power in this country. Sarah Palin is a goddamned joke that just isn't funny anymore. If she ever was.

[MamaDem]

40. I didn't need to see them to know she's and idiot. nt

[vanderBeth]

41. I think they're fake.

Besides, she might have bombed them that one day.

GPA's more reliable. ;)

[pink-o]

44. As I said on the other thread, I only scored a 900 on my SAT's in 1973

And I still only have a high school diploma and a trade certificate in Travel and Tourism. I have an average IQ of 115, but I feel I can hold my own with almost anyone discussing any subject.

The biggest dif? Sarah isn't so much stupid as TOTALLY INCURIOUS. Anyone who buys that fundie crap fairy tale without question is a more dangerous person in power than her downs syndrome (grand) son!

I scored low on SAT and got hideous grades in school because I was a pissed off, sarcastic, adolescent girl who felt that the adults I had trusted so blindly had betrayed me. They had destroyed my environment, gotten my country involved in an illegal war where innocent people and young Americans were being murdered and traumatised for life, they had elected a shit-head, secretive, paranoid scumbag for president who was committing God-knows what treasonous acts--and there was NO WAY I was gonna respect anyone over 30 or do homework or go to their stupid colleges, cuz MY generation was gonna change the world and make it perfect....

Okay, not to belabour the point. But what I'm trying to say is there's PLENTY out there with which to nail Sarah to the wall. We don't need to use 27 year old SAT scores when we can find shit on her from last week!

Especially since some of us (me) can't exactly point fingers over it!

[Overseas]

46. Guess I can't recommend this. I am quite interested in more confirmation

that the disgusting John McLiar has proven his lack of judgment in choosing a totally unqualified person.

[Uzybone]

48. Agreed

lets not get caught up in the Palin fever. Fuck her. Cant wait to see her go back to Alaska and face impeachment or censure.

Always aim for the top of the ticket.

[slackmaster]

49. The SAT is either racially and culturally biased and therefore invalid, or it isn't

:nuke:

BTW mine (math + verbal) was 1350. Two of my best friends had perfect scores, so I felt like a dummy.

[ShortnFiery]

56. There's been studies that once a person reaches average to "a little above average" on an Aptitude

test (not to be confused with an Achievement test), that it's their "motivation" that makes the difference with regard to whether or not they succeed in life.

I have scored hopelessly average (to a little above average) on most aptitude exams, yet I graduated in the upper 5% of my graduating class at ASU.

I suggest that if you're gifted to be "well within the fat part of the bell curve" with regard to IQ, it's CLEARLY persistence and determination ... with a side of luck that are the all powerful determinants of success.

IMO, Sarah Palin, like George W. Bush, are *intellectually incurious.* That's what makes them both seemingly ignorant. They have the mental capability but not the will. :(

[slackmaster]

60. Go Sun Devils!

My aunt used to be a librarian there.

[ShortnFiery]

67. Thank-you. Although I was a very serious student, I loved attending ASU.

After a stint in the Army, I went on to attend SDSU and earn a masters degree. However, I have to admit that before attending ASU and SDSU, I enrolled in University of Nebraska at Lincoln for a year. No, I didn't attend as many universities as Sarah Palin, but will admit to being a person of average intellect who works to maintain intellectual curiosity. :-)

BTW Go Big Red! Win or lose, I love the Nebraska Cornhuskers.



p.s. I'm not ashamed to believe that I want my President to be smarter than me, i.e., high aptitude scores on both the SAT and GRE. For a President having to tackle many challenges at once, a less than STELLAR IQ is a non-starter. :thumbsup:

[riqster]

51. Cheney has had immense influence over the Bush agenda

...and McCain is seriously ill. Palin is a valid concern, both for her actions as a potential Veep and as a likely Prexy.

[KansasVoter]

53. You do realize she is the VP for the OLDEST candiate in history???

Of course it matters! Jesus!

[BklynChick]

54. I want as much insight into the intelligence (or lack thereof) of anyone running for public office.

If that document is true and accurate, you're damn right it's relevant.
Not recommended.

[ShortnFiery]

58. Exactly, I agree wholeheartedly with Randi Rhodes, I want my President to have a high intellect.

A high IQ may not be all-important as many average IQ people succeed to the highest tier. However, our President must be able to tackle many tasks at one time. A high IQ is ESSENTIAL for a President to aptly function.

[Stand and Fight]

55. Recommended. n/t

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

57. I agree

[rucky]

59. Sneaky!

[demmiblue]

61. Seriously... WTF? Her SAT scores are totally relevant...

especially since I have not seen much regarding her other academic performances.

Shite, most children I know blow her pre-college scores out of the water!

Forgive me, but she is a dumb ass!

[AZBlue]

62. Considering I've been all over news sites today and this is the first I've heard of it,

I certainly don't think ANYONE gives a crap.

[BlooInBloo]

63. Sheesh. The SAT is like 3rd grade level material....

Even TALKING about SAT scores, rather than GRE scores makes me want to claw my eyes out.

[DevonRex]

64. It matters whether she's intelligent or not. No rec from me.