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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 06:41 AM
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The Daily Widget, Fri 10/10 – O-380, M-158 – Ohio and Texas Weaken; West Virginia in Play?




1. ANALYSIS

Yesterday’s state polls are a good mix … a majority of them were conducted in swing states, with a couple blue states and red states thrown in. Yet the only polls that change the picture today were conducted by the American Research Group (ARG).

ARG is showing Barack Obama leading in Ohio by 3 points, narrower than most other pollsters are showing it. This was enough to move Ohio back into the Lean Obama column today (average Obama +3.4).

Texas had been polling as Weak McCain last week (Rasmussen), but ARG shows John McCain with a 19 point lead there. With the new ARG poll, Texas moves back into the Strong McCain column today (average McCain +14).

The most mind-boggling of all the polls released yesterday is ARG’s poll for West Virginia. ARG is showing Obama with an 8 point lead there (new average McCain +1.3). Recent polls had shown the race tightening in West Virginia with smaller McCain leads, but it’s hard to believe ARG’s poll result until other pollsters can confirm it. My electoral vote calculator has been seeing West Virginia as 50-50 for Obama the past several days and is including it in Obama’s electoral vote total (380), however, along with Indiana. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if West Virginia is now competitive, but I’m not sure about Obama leading there yet. In this political climate, almost anything is possible for Obama.

Popular vote tracking is currently showing Obama with a lead of 5.4 million votes nationwide (4% over McCain), while the Daily Tracking polls are showing an average 6.9% lead for Obama. Obama’s average lead in all the national polls is 5%. Due to the rapidly changing picture in the national polls, I am now posting the Poll Widget every day in the Popular Vote section (see Figure 4c below).

Finally, voter registration totals for Obama’s Seventeen swing states are up nearly 23% since 2004! That means one out of every five voters in these states will be new voters. This is unprecedented!





Note: Trend lines in graphs are only accurate up to five days in the future, so we need to view the trend lines with that in mind.



2. NEW STATE POLLS


Scale:
Strong Obama (10% or greater)
Weak Obama (5% to 9%)
Lean Obama (0% to 4%)
Lean McCain (0% to 4%)
Weak McCain (5% to 9%)
Strong McCain (10% or greater)


Alabama Obama 35, McCain 55 (AEA/Capital Survey, 10/6, +/- 4.1, 554 LV)
Alaska Obama 38, McCain 55 (Moore Research, 10/5, +/- 4.4, 500 LV)
Florida Obama 50, McCain 47 (Rasmussen, 10/8, +/- 4.0, 700 LV)
Florida Obama 52, McCain 44 (Strategic Vision, 10/8, +/- 3.0, 1200 LV)
Georgia Obama 43, McCain 50 (Strategic Vision, 10/7, +/- 3.0, 800 LV)
Indiana Obama 43, McCain 50 (Rasmussen, 10/7, +/- 4.5, 500 LV)
Michigan Obama 56, McCain 40 (Rasmussen, 10/8, +/- 4.5, 500 LV)
Minnesota Obama 47, McCain 46 (American Research Group, 10/7, +/- 4.0, 600 LV)
Missouri Obama 46, McCain 49 (American Research Group, 10/6, +/- 4.0, 600 LV)
Montana Obama 45, McCain 50 (American Research Group, 10/8, +/- 4.0, 600 LV)
New Hampshire Obama 52, McCain 43 (American Research Group, 10/8, +/- 4.0, 600 LV)
New Jersey Obama 50, McCain 42 (Rasmussen, 10/7, +/- 4.5, 500 LV)
North Carolina Obama 48, McCain 43 (Civitas/TelOpinion, 10/7, +/- 4.0, 598 LV)
North Carolina Obama 49, McCain 48 (Rasmussen, 10/8, +/- 4.0, 700 LV)
Ohio Obama 48, McCain 45 (American Research Group, 10/7, +/- 4.0, 600 LV)
Pennsylvania Obama 54, McCain 40 (Strategic Vision, 10/7, +/- 3.0, 1200 LV)
Pennsylvania Obama 51, McCain 38 (Morning Call, 10/8, +/- 4.0, 602 LV)
Texas Obama 38, McCain 57 (American Research Group, 10/8, +/- 4.0, 600 LV)
Virginia Obama 51, McCain 43 (Public Policy Polling, 10/7, +/- 3.2, 917 LV)
West Virginia Obama 50, McCain 42 (American Research Group, 10/8, +/- 4.0, 600 LV)



3. ELECTORAL VOTE SNAPSHOT



^ FIGURE 3a. This graph shows the daily tracking of Obama’s projected electoral votes from three sources. 270 is a majority of the electoral votes. The blue line shows daily tracking from 538.com, which projects what the outcome should be on election day. The red line shows daily tracking from Electoral-Vote.com, which shows a current snapshot of Obama’s electoral progress if the undecideds break evenly. The green line is my own projection, and it shows a current snapshot of Obama’s electoral progress if the undecideds break the same way as the swing states. A trend line is used (dashed green line) to show the average progress since May 19 and possible route for the next seven days.



^ FIGURE 3b. This graph shows Obama’s green line and red line from the previous graph, and compares it to John Kerry’s 2004 progress (orange line) as shown from Electoral-Vote.com. (Both the red line and the orange line show data from Electoral-Vote.com)



^ FIGURE 3c. This chart organizes all the state polls into groups categorized by how much a certain candidate is leading. “Strong” is used to indicate a candidate leading by 10 points or greater in a certain state. “Weak” is used to indicate a candidate leading between 5 and 9 points in a certain state. “Lean” is used to indicate a candidate leading between 0 and 4 points in a certain state. A total of electoral votes for each category is given at the bottom of each column.






4. POPULAR VOTE AND NATIONAL POLL SNAPSHOT



^ FIGURE 4a. I am projecting 136 million votes on election day, which is the total 2004 votes plus population growth and new voter registration totals for each state. A total projected popular vote is calculated for each candidate based on projected votes on election day this year multiplied by each state’s current poll results. This graph shows the daily tracking of the popular vote calculations.



^ FIGURE 4b. Obama’s cumulative lead in the national daily tracking polls is illustrated in this graph. Showing it this way helps us see the Obama Campaign’s momentum shifts much easier over time.



^ FIGURE 4c. This chart compares each polling agency’s latest polls with their averages for each candidate this year. The top section of the chart compares the Daily Tracking polls and my own projected popular vote for each candidate. The bottom section of the chart compares the National Tracking polls (usually released monthly). Each section is totaled and averaged, and an overall average is shown at the very bottom of the chart. The latest polls released for each polling agency are displayed in the center columns for each candidate, as well as Obama’s current lead in those polls (a negative number denotes Obama trailing McCain in that poll). The columns on the right show each polling agency’s averaged results since May 1.



5. OBAMA’S SEVENTEEN



^ FIGURE 5a. The “Obama Seventeen” is the group of 17 states where the Obama campaign is concentrating much of its efforts this year. This widget shows how the candidates will do if the undecideds nationwide break the same way as the swing states. Each of the seventeen swing states are listed below the indicator’s current percentage of the total 1700 possible. The closing figures on Intrade are shown next to each state, with a column to show the change from the previous day. The scale for these is 0 to 100, with 50 being a majority. The number of electoral votes for each state is shown in the left margin, and the most recent polling for each state is shown in the far right column.



^ FIGURE 5b. This graph shows the daily tracking of “Obama’s Seventeen” swing states total from the Obama’s Seventeen widget above. To show Obama’s progress in the swing states, divide the latest closing figure by 1700.



^ FIGURE 5c. This graph plots all of the state polling results for Obama’s Seventeen swing states, and displays a trend line to illustrate each candidate’s progress in these states as a group.



6. WIGAND ELECTORAL AVERAGE



^ FIGURE 6a. The Wigand Electoral Average is our own indicator, and shows how the candidates will do if the undecideds nationwide break the same way as the swing states. Each of the twelve swing states are listed below the indicator’s current score. The closing figures on Intrade are shown next to each state, with a column to show the change from the previous day. The scale for these is 0 to 100, with 50 being a majority.



^ FIGURE 6b. This graph shows the daily tracking of the swing states total from the Wigand Electoral Average widget above. To show Obama’s progress in the swing states, divide the latest closing figure by 1200.



^ FIGURE 6c. Wigand vs. Trading and Real Clear Politics Average. The Wigand Electoral Average uses both poll averages and trading (swing states), and this graph compares it to the national daily tracking average from Real Clear Politics, as well as the closing trading figures from Intrade (people buying shares with real money) and Rasmussen Markets (people using fake money).



^ FIGURE 6d. This graph shows the daily tracking of each swing state’s closing figure on Intrade. The scale is 0 to 100 with 50 being a majority. I commonly refer to the range from 40.00 to 60.00 as “The Zone” because the states in The Zone are true swing states this year.


The Wigand Electoral Average uses public polling results to determine base states for both parties and a short list of swing states, and combines the actual electoral votes from base states with a weighted Intrade calculation for electoral votes from swing states to derive an average on a scale of 0 to 100. On this scale, greater than 50.00 is considered a win for Barack Obama. An average of 50.10 would yield 270 electoral votes, and an average of 100.00 would yield 538 electoral votes. More Information




7. LINKS AND SOURCES


Yesterday’s Widget
Full Weekly Tracking
Saturday Data Dump
Past editions of THE MATH

Sources:
Pollster.com
FiveThirtyEight.com
Electoral-Vote.com
Intrade
Rasmussen Markets
RCP Average
RCP Latest Polls
3 Blue Dudes



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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 06:55 AM
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1. KNR
That WV poll left me scratching my head. I don't really believe it, but it does help the trend.

These numbers are taken after the full court press of the "Ayersathon". It's not working.:kick:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:04 AM
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4. Ayersathon, lol ... that's a good way to look at it
They have nothing to run on, but we're not surprised at that.

:donut: Good morning, tek! :hi:
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:04 PM
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30. Kick!
Thanks for making my day, every day!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 06:57 AM
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2. Good Morning, P-Man!
It seems to me that the duration of validity of polls might be shortening, as the election wait shortens....what good is a poll that is more than 10 days old, in these rapidly changing circumstances? What happens to your averages if you drop things quicker, and ignore really wild outliers?

Not trying to tell you your business, or anything...

The situation economically couldn't be worse. I swear that the idiots are completely in charge and have been since Jan 2001. They should all resign and renew their passports and head for Dubai....

Political Party for sale--cheap to highest bidder! Inquiries to GOP. (Not even the financiers or the monied are buying this clunker!)
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:08 AM
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5. I shortened the duration to one week after the convention bounces leveled off
That was about 15 days ago. Great minds think alike :D

Speaking of political parties, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a lot of infighting in the GOP after losing the election. I wonder if there'll be a major split ...

:donut: Good morning! :hi:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:12 AM
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9. I Should Have Known that Poll Man Was On the Job!
How do those new threads suit you?
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:15 AM
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11. The pink socks are flattering to my deer-like legs
And since I've never reached child-bearing age, I guess that makes me a goddess :D

(Colbert Report was a hoot last night)
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 06:08 PM
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34. I Have No Idea What You Are Talking About
and I don't really need to know, thanks! Really!
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occe Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:03 AM
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3. Disappointing
Missouri is a big disappointment. We need Missouri and now we are down by 3. I am happy with the rest, although I am disheartened that Minnesota is as close as it is. Florida is okay, Virginia looking strong, Ohio is close. West Virginia I expected.

Thanks for posting, K&R
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:11 AM
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7. Missouri is still averaging as an Obama lead :)
Not by much, though. The Minnesota poll is what I refer to as a "lolpoll" ... an obvious outlier.

:donut: Good morning, occe! :hi:
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occe Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:15 AM
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12. Thanks for replying
:) :yourock: :donut: :hi:
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gademocrat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:09 AM
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6. Good morning Mr. P.
Thank you! I want this nightmare of utter incompetence to end.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:12 AM
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8. It will end soon :)
And we'll be wondering what to do with our lives when we have a President-Elect Barack Obama :D

:donut: Good morning! :hi:
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blue-kite Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:12 AM
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10. Morning Mr PDA, I hesitate to call you Mr Ass but if you like...
Some mindless banter from my side.

1) If new voters are as heavily slanted towards Blue (80/20% I think) and 40% of Indiana voters are new. That makes Indiana a very possible grab for Obama. That would make Nevada, the way it has been polling, a very very strong Obama possibility.
2) Figure 3c... always my favourite... so if we give (I know you don't want to) back to McCain the three leaners to Obama, IF, then Obama only wins with 318 EVs... I'll accept that.
3) West Virginia, as you might say, 'go figure!'
4) Oklahoma... Ok I've pimped up a Ford Fiesta (I know a weasly european car) with a V* 3600 HP engine and have added some sheets of Bradley FV replacement armour, together with a very small Obama/Biden 2008 flag a fearsome vehicle. I imagine this a bit of a movie, running down 66, something like a cross between No Country for Old Men, The Life of Brian and The Seven Samurai.

Anyway,
Cheers
BK
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:20 AM
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15. Mr. Ass works for me, lol
Good analysis, Mr. Kite! Agreed on 1, 2 and 3.

Regarding #4, I see it more like Thelma and Louise. They picked up Brad Pitt in Oklahoma, lol ... Does the Ford Fiesta come in a convertible? :D

:donut: Cheers! :hi:
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:18 AM
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13. Looks good. Still holding at 380!
Good news about WV too. Any state McCain has to blow money on is good for us!
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:21 AM
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17. At this point, he'll need to blow money on Utah, lol
:donut: Good morning, Curtland! :hi:
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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:18 AM
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14. You're the best.....
thank you for posting. :hug: and GPG (Go Pack Go)
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:21 AM
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18. GPG!
:hug:

:donut: Good morning! :hi:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:20 AM
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16. The NRA will pour money into WV
Sad to say but WV is considered to be owned by the NRA.

Funny that Obama is doing well there because I don't think has put much effort into WV. I could be wrong.

Rec'd for the incredible amount of great work you did in compiling this. Thanks.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:26 AM
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19. Nate Silver has a thought about states like West Virginia ...
Something like this: When all the other states surrounding a red state are polling blue, it will most likely affect the red state as well. It has to do with the proximity. Although Kentucky is bordering West Virginia and KY is still polling red, it has weakened a bit. The rest of the states bordering West Virginia are already polling blue.

West Virginia may wash up on our shore on November 4, if the current trends hold or improve for us :D

:donut: Good morning! :hi:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:31 AM
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21. Interesting point
We did win 3 House races in Kentucky in 2006. Three seats...in KENTUCKY!?!??!

Actually one of them-forgot his name-was considered such a weak candidate that the DNC (Dean) didn't follow the "50 state strategy" with him and he still won. Oh that's right I forgot we aren't supposed to talk about what happened two years ago-it upsets the people inside the castle (DC).
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 08:24 PM
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39. Nate Silver is scrambling for rationale
It has nothing to do with neighboring states. New Hampshire used to vote red while everything around it was blue. Every state has a percentage of partisan tilt and when the nation tilts in the opposite direction by similar percentage, then magically that engulfed state becomes in play. Amazing how that works.

A newcomer like Nate Silver needs to realize he doesn't have to try to explain everything. It's a Democratic year to begin with, and a late-cycle major economic collapse has turned it into a substantially larger advantage than could have been anticipated. That's about it. Keep it simple stupid.

West Virginia has a ton of moderates, almost 50%. I never dismiss our chances in a state with only 33% self-identified conservatives, but Hillary would have had greater opportunity than Obama in West Virginia.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 06:12 PM
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35. Dubya Did All the Spadework for WV
the busy little eager beaver that he is....doing his part to see that a good President serves from now on!
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Kukesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:31 AM
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20. "Ohio weakens." I don't like that one bit,
However, we have to take into account that Palin has been in Ohio campaigning for the first time and is getting tons of local news coverage. Also, we have lots of stupid people who live here. In this morning's newspaper a Palin supporter was quoted as saying Sarah will work hard for our schools since she was in PTA. Duh.

Good Morning, phrig!

:hi:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:44 AM
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24. Ohio seems to exist in its own universe :)
But it is still polling with an Obama lead, so that's good news at least.

:donut: Good morning, Kukesa! :hi:
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fight4my3sons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:33 AM
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22. Good morning, phrigndumass!
Wow, West Virginia! I mean I haven't been there since I was in college down in VA and wandered over for a Rainbow Gathering, but Obama with an 8 point lead - :wow: I would have never thought. Good for them! I hope that other pollsters do confirm the results.

:hi: :bounce:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:45 AM
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25. I hope it's confirmed, too! :)
:donut: Good morning! :hi: :hi: :bounce:
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:34 AM
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23. Good work as always
Good morning :hi:
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:46 AM
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26. Thanks :)
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 07:46 AM by phrigndumass
:donut: Good afternoon, David! :hi:

(on edit: change wording to your time, lol)
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 03:06 AM
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37. Haha
Close...but it was actually evening.

I'm impressed you remember though!
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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:56 AM
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27. K&R, thanks! Love the daily widget.
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 08:00 AM
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28. Thanks, Dr. D
:donut: Good morning! :hi:
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 01:59 PM
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29. Holy shit. West Virginia???!!!!
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phrigndumass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 02:17 PM
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31. Amazing, isn't it?
:hi:
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 05:20 PM
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32. ARG should be banned from the widget lol
just too far from the others both ways.


new voters not 1 in 5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11


much closer to 1 in 4 you have to realize that the total numbers are up 23% but within that total you have a larger number of people who were old voters but moved or died and so that the total number of new numbers is going to be well over 25% of the total votes.

Also given that the differences in motivation with these new voters it definitely will be closer to the 1 in 4 mark.

These numbers are like something out of the Twilight Zone. It should be causing the pollsters to worry in those states.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 06:01 PM
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33. Guess who wants to move columns?

Go Georgia






Insider Advantage has been polling Georgia over the past month and their polls have been consistent with other polls. The fact that it is a consistent firm movement gives it a lot of credibility:



Date . . . . . . . . Obama. . . . . . . McCain . . . . Difference

9/10 . . . . . . . . . 38 . . . . . . . . 56 . . . . . . . 18

9/17 . . . . . . . . . 43 . . . . . . . . 51 . . . . . . . 8

9/30 . . . . . . . . . 44 . . . . . . . . 50 . . . . . . . 6

10/9 . . . . . . . . . 46 . . . . . . . . 49 . . . . . . . 3


Sure glad McCain/Palin are going to places like Wisconsin and Iowa

http://www.pollster.com/polls/ga/08-ga-pres-ge-mvo.php
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 07:06 PM
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36. on the issue of cell phone and polls
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 07:40 PM
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38. Saturday kick
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