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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:51 PM
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With folks working hard to get Obama elected ... is anyone planning protests if elec. stolen?
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 12:54 PM by gauguin57
if the election is stolen by the racist Rethugs?

Cuz I'll tell ya ... all of the McSame-Failin racist tactics are burning me up so much that, if I have to be the only person standing with a sign in Lafayette Park, I'll do it if this thing is stolen from us -- through the racist threats, through rigged voting machines, through illegal voter purges, through other types of Democratic voter disenfranchisement ...

I'm optimistic about Obama's win ... but if he doesn't, and it's clear it was stolen from him (and us) ... I hope there will be others ready to march with me.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:55 PM
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1. Honestly, I'm more concerned with what happens when we win
Either way this election goes - and it appears to be going our way - the other side is going to be outraged and filled with anger for a variety of reasons. If we win, be prepared for the largest and most vile and hate filled backlash beyond what we could ever imagine. Just look at what the McCain camp is doing now - grasping at anything, weaving hatred and lies throughout their brain dead masses.


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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:56 PM
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2. Yikes! You're probably right!
What a country. *sigh*
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:16 PM
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16. I told my husband that yesterday. He thinks the McCain side would freak
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 01:16 PM by GreenPartyVoter
but that Obama supporters seems much more rational. I tried to explain to him that after multiple stolen elections I think enough people out there are getting the gist of election theft, and the support on the ground is so strong for Obama it would seem impossible for him to lose in any way except by theft.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:25 PM
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18. Agreed. If we are mad, we protest and get things accomplished. If they lose - it's war
Some might say I'm over the top in my characterization of "war", but I stand by it wholeheartedly.

They (McCain) are laying the groundwork for it now. We see the speeches. We see the rally's. We see the words and accusations fly, even when they are built upon lie after lie. Their base is frustrated they are behind. The fundies are screaming "death to America" just as loud as any Muslim boogeyman that they can invent if Obama wins. They continue to whip their supporters into a frenzy on a foundation of smear and downright lies and this will continue to election day and beyond.

Their goal will be to plunge the U.S. into such disarray that an Obama administration will be hard pressed to accomplish anything. 2012 rolls around, they can scream - look what he did to this country!!! Of course, that is if we even make it that far, which I'm not entirely convinced - these people are evil and will stop at nothing to get their way and impose their twisted will on the people.

I'm eager for an Obama win. I just fear the brainwashed on the other side's reaction.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:58 PM
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3. If that happens, I will be there
n/t
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:58 PM
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4. I'm gonna get flamed for this, but I'm tired of hearing about stolen elections
Lets just get out there and vote (and bring some friends). Lets stop all this hysteria about election theft.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:01 PM
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6. That's why I said, "with folks working hard to get him elected."
People SHOULD be putting all their efforts into electing him.

But sorry ... we can't wait until the day after the election to plan for protests and expect anything but chaos. And there are enough stories about there about voter-roll purges and voting machines that aren't working already, and missing ballots, that you've gotta wonder what's headed our way.
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:05 PM
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8. But if the risk is real (it is), shouldn't we propare a strategy?
I don't expect that protests after a stolen election are likely to be useful. Heck, we were protesting in Columbus, Ohio when the US denounced as illegitimate the election in Ukraine, when All the same indications of fraud -- indeed, more -- were present in Ohio.

It's not hysteria, it's history.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:58 PM
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5. Why are we being negative????????????

ENOUGH OF THE NEGATIVITY

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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:04 PM
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7. And that's why I said I'm optimistic about Obama's win.
*sigh*

I should have known better than to submit a post with all those bases covered -- saying I'm optimistic, saying "we're all working hard." Nobody wants to read that part ... it's all about "you're being negative" and "we should be working hard."

*sigh*

We can all work our asses off, and the Rethugs can still rig the voting machines and the voter rolls, and we can't do a thing about it except protest afterward (and support the Obama lawyers who would file appeals). We've seen this shit before.

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Basement Beat Donating Member (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:12 PM
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10. You're absolutely right...
While we are all optimistic...we all should be aware that the republicans can and will do anything to rob segments of their voice. There really needs to be a backup plan of sorts of protests. Because like you said earlier, if there isn't it'll just be chaotic and the media will just label it as riots. We'll be smart to be prepared for any and everything. If you happen to find any group that has been vocal in preps, let us know!
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:15 PM
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15. you are 100% right and
I will be there. It's NOT being negative, it's being realistic. If people here haven't learned anything from the past two Presidential elctions, well, then i don't know what to say.

I'm working as a poll worker that day and I hope that we don't see any mischief. However I'm more concerned about the voter purges that are going on now!!
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:10 PM
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9. If it's stolen, a "protest" accomplishes nothing
It's gonna take something more than that to get anything done about a stolen election. Standing around whining ineffectually is exactly what the far right expects, and wants, and ridicules you for doing.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:12 PM
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11. I think * is worried that there will be
revolution in the streets. Soldiers trained in Fallujah for crowd control have been stationed (on active duty) in Colorado. Their deployment began Oct. 1. So be sure and wear your bullet proof vests when you take to the streets, cause they'll be using live ammunition.
(See you behind the barricade BTW)
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:12 PM
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12. Dems have had 8 yrs to work on this election theft problem
If the election is stolen again, I will see it as a betrayal from all sides and I will quietly disengage from the entire process.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:13 PM
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13. We're going to
win.
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:14 PM
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14. How about a plan to stop election fraud before it happens?
It's too late to do anything about the machines and the weird practices written into HAVA, etc. But what if the ACORN nonsense could be turned against the Republicans? WHat if one of our fine representatives initiated a mechanism for whistleblowers, ostensibly to stop the ACORN stuff. But it also rewards those who finger perpetrators of those intimidating anonymous fliers targeting black neighborhoods; also covers voter caging that un-registers legitimate voters; also covers programming of ballot counting machines and tabulators; and maybe even covers fraud in recent elections and recounts?

What do you think of something like that? With this ACORN stuff hot, there's a chance, maybe?
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 01:16 PM
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17. good idea!
who would be brave enough to do it though? I would hope that the Obama campaign itself is already on it.
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