If Pennsylvania is battleground (Obama +15) and VA (Obama +8), why is Georgia not (McCain +7)?

[No Passaran]

Especially with Obama camp buying so many ads in Georgia and McCain's lead being cut in half.

[Bicoastal]

1. Because it's Georgia.

And Obama's...well...Obama.

That's my theory, anyway.

[Orsino]

34. Yeah. Because we don't care what y'all Yankees do.

Or something. :7

[yardwork]

2. Ha! Cause nobody in the media wants to admit that McCain is tanking nationwide.

[TwilightGardener]

3. Funny how perception works, isn't it? That McShitbrains was at one point

in the ballpark to take PA means it's forever "hotly contested", but Obama creeping up on him in a "safe red" state means nothing. Of course, no one expects Obama to take GA now, for obvious reasons, but still, it's funny how uneven the analysis is.

[Dawgs]

20. Excuse me? "no one expects Obama to take GA now"

I'll bet anyone that Obama will take Georgia - and I say that because I live here.

[TwilightGardener]

22. OK, OK, I defer to you on GA--hope you're right!

[Orsino]

35. My wife is also promising me that Obama will win our state. n/t

[quiller4]

4. according to taday's polls Georgie is McCain +7

[MadBadger]

5. PA is a battleground because of crappy reporting, and VA is one because some polls show it closer.

Some polls have Obama only up 2 points in Virginia, while others have him up 8 points. So its fine to call that a battleground. PA shouldnt be a battlegground, but the journalists are dropping the ball here, not noticing the slew of polls that have Obama up big. In Georgia, 7 points is as close as it gets. If it gets closer in a poll, than yes, it should be one.

[Occam Bandage]

6. I think people believe that Obama is near his ceiling nationwide right now. nt

[MindMatter]

13. National #s level, but states still moving ?????

That really seems odd. I guess there has been some softness in CL, NV, and OH, but there have been big moves in MN, WI, MI, PH, NH, and VA. I wonder how there could be that much state-level action, but the national numbers stay flat.

[MindMatter]

7. RCP now has PA solid blue

[MindMatter]

9. And they have Obama over 270 for the first time

[Citizen Jane]

8. Here in DeKalb County

There is a ton of excitement about the huge turnout.

Of course, since I've heard this is the bluest county in the South (oasis in a red sea) I wish that the hubbub was about registration/voting in some of the redder counties.

I will, of course, still vote for Obama and make my voice heard and keep DeKalb county deep blue.

There is a lot of excitement here in GA and the Senate race is tons tighter than people expected.

Go JIM MARTIN!

[racaulk]

25. You are so right.

I went to the Department of Elections (or whatever it is called) for Dekalb County on Monday, and that place was PACKED!!! I expected all of those people to be there to register to vote or to get a confirmation that their registrations were up to date (which is what I was doing) since Monday was the voter registration deadline. And while there were a good number of people doing that, there were a LOT of people there to vote! There was a line of at least 200 people there to cast their ballots!

The excitement here is huge, and I'm loving it! :)

Go Jim Martin, and GOBAMA!

:bounce:

[Citizen Jane]

33. They ran a great segment on the news the other day

It was this woman with her newborn baby and her first time voting. She registered, IIRC, at church and was standing in line with her baby telling everyone there that she was voting for the first time and she was proud. It was pretty cute.

[Nipper1959]

10. Excellent point

The right biased MSM wants a horse race. Damn the facts, it's close!

[WI_DEM]

11. It should be!

[No Passaran]

12. Wisconsin is Obama +10 and it's all about "can McCain turn it blue"

give me a break media. Texas is McCain +9 and no one is talking about it

[RaleighNCDUer]

14. Because there are three candidates in Georgia:

Obama, McCain, and Diebold.

[crossroads]

15. People in Georgia are pretty conservative/backward imo

I lived next door to a family from Georgia many years back... Seemed like nice people, but they were really prejudiced! (remember the movie Deliverance?)

[No Passaran]

16. I lived in Savannah and it's very liberal

[DefenseLawyer]

17. Have you been to Georgia?

Not Atlanta, but the rest of Georgia?

[Dawgs]

21. What does that mean?

Athens and Savannah are liberal, and much of the rest of the state is full of African Americans.

Obama's problem is in the Atlanta subarbs, not the rest of the state.

[DefenseLawyer]

23. There are liberal college towns in practically every state.

Austin Texas is a blue as the sky, but that has little reflection on the rest of the state. Having spent a good deal of time in rural Georgia I can tell you that it is ultra conservative. I'm not trying to dis your state, it just is. Georgia has a 30% AA population, which will make things interesting, but the comment was to the original question which was why isn't Obama polling better in Georgia and the answer is that Georgia is as a whole far more conservative than say Michigan or Pennsylvania.

[Dawgs]

26. Actually, I don't think that was the question at all.

I think they were making a point about what states are called battlegrounds, and why Georgia isn't; even though the poll numbers are closer than VA and PA.

As far as Georgia, you are right. It is definetely more conservative than MI or PA.

But, you said outside of Atlanta; which includes Athens and Savannah(two of the largest cities in Georgia). I also think you're going to see a lot of people not voting(or voting for someone else). A co-worker of mine, just last week, said he was voting for Barr.

[quakerboy]

18. Because the media is reporting 2004

while we are fighting 2008.

[Cha]

31. The corporate media is

always behind..why is that?

[seasat]

19. Having grown up in Georgia, I'm surprised that Obama is doing so well.

Seriously, Obama polling at 7% below McSame is great. The urban Atlanta area is more liberal than the rest of the state and Obama is probably doing well there. He is also probably polling high with African-Americans. A few cities like Savannah are a little more moderate but most of the rest of the state including many of the Atlanta suburbs are very hard core Christian conservative Repub.

The S Baptist church my family attended, held a rally where all the youth brought records, books, and even a Halloween pumpkin to have a burning. The pastor even denounced all science (not just evolution) as evil.

We had a riot at my junior high school during over the busing rules in the mid 70's. Martin Luther King was jailed when he came to my hometown. The sheriff during the 60's carried around a large stick he used to randomly club African-Americans. There is still a lot of racism in the state.

The Democrats elected in Georgia in the 70s were mainly Dixiecrats or conservative. Reagan's race strategy combined with his courting of Christian conservative pretty much pushed many of the Democrats out of office in Georgia. With Atlanta leading the way and some enclaves in some of the more diverse towns increasing, Georgia is becoming more progressive. Outside of those areas, it's closer to Alabama in political views.

It would be fantastic if we can flip Georgia to blue. I imagine that if Georgia flips, McSame will have already lost NC, VA, FL, and OH. I hope that it happens because a humiliating defeat like that would destroy the Repub party for at least a decade.

[mvd]

24. Someone said they saw a lot of McCain signs in GA, but..

that's obviously not a good indicator. Here in Montgomery County, PA, driving from the Trappe area to Lansdale, there were a slew of McCain signs and a few Obama signs. There were more Obama signs as I hit Lansdale. PA is solid blue in the polls despite the disparity.

[Schulzz]

27. When Obama is 10 points ahead it's a toss-up.

When McCain was 2 points ahead nationally after the convention, he was winning :crazy:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

28. Because it's not a tipping point state.

If we win Georgia, it'll be the difference between maybe 310 and 320 EVs. The election won't be won or lost in Georgia. On the other hand, PA and VA are integral parts of the election, basically because they're only paths McCain has left to victory.

[blueclown]

29. In a close election, Pennsylvania is a tipping point state.

Georgia is not.

Obama would need to win the national popular vote by 10% to have any chance of winning Georgia. And if that happens, he will not need to have won Georgia. He will already have crossed the 270 EV finish line comfortably.

Not so for Pennsylvania.

[thesubstanceofdreams]

30. PA is a battleground only in McPalin's feverish dreams

They continue to campaign and advertise there. Just goes to show how desperate you are.

[Secret_Society]

32. Because the media can't go into election night without a race

If they called it as it actually is it would be (IMO) 141 lean or strong McCain and 335 lean or strong Obama with 62 tossups. But that's not very suspenseful, now is it lol?