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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:11 AM
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Who is McCain's buddy - a man who went to North Vietnam and protest America's involvement in the war
I realize that Obama's campaign is playing it smart and not using this information but the rest of us should. John McCain was drinking buddies, read that again DRINKING BUDDIES, with a man who went into North Vietnam and protested America's involvment in the Vietnam war just like Jane Fonda did. This was not someone McCain serrved on a board with or someone who did something radical when McCain was 8 years old. THis was a DRINKING BUDDY. And I don't know about you, but my drinking buddies were usually good friends of mine. AND, as recently as 2 years ago McCain praised this person at a South Carolina school. So we're not grasping for straws here with the Obama-Ayers connection. This is a drinking buddy that McCain praised as recently as 2 years ago who went into North Vietnam during the 60s and criticized American's involvement in Vietnam while John McCain was locked up in a POW camp.

Folks, this is important and needs to get out there. Not by Barack Obama but by us foot soldiers - we need to be bringing this up everytime people use Ayers as an excuse to not vote for Obama. McCain has his very own 'Hanoi Jane' as a best buddy that'll he'll even vouch for at local college campuses.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marc-cooper/mccains-own-60s-radical-p_b_132032.html

McCain's Own 60's Radical Pal

The McCain campaign shows no shame in engaging in a tired guilt-by-association tactic as Sarah Palin accuses Obama of "palling around with terrorists." This desperate calumny derives from Obama once serving on the same non-profit board as former 60's radical Bill Ayers, one of the founders of the Weather Underground.

But what about McCain's own associations with former 60's radicals. Indeed, until just a few years ago, McCain openly boasted not only about his passing friendship but also his deep collaboration with one of the most prominent of Vietnam-era student radicals, David Ifshin. The same David Ifshin who denounced America on Radio Hanoi as McCain sat locked up as a POW.

<<<<<snip>>>>>>

As recently as two years ago, speaking at Columbia College, McCain affectionately and warmly recalled his relationship with Ifshin saying:

"We worked together in an organization dedicated to promoting human rights in the country where he and I had once come for different reasons. I came to admire him for his generosity, his passion for his ideals, for the largeness of his heart, and I realized he had not been my enemy, but my countryman . . . my countryman ...and later my friend. His friendship honored me. We disagreed over much. Our politics were often opposed, and we argued those disagreements. But we worked together for our shared ideals."



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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:14 AM
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1. Check out this opening statement from a NY Sun article from 2006
http://www.nysun.com/editorials/mccain-and-ifshin/32880/

It's hard to remember a more moving moment in college oratory than the one that came yesterday when Senator McCain, speaking at Columbia College on the subject of division and unity in American politics and war, suddenly started telling a personal story. "I had a friend once, who, a long time ago, in the passions and resentments of a tumultuous era in our history, I might have considered my enemy,"

<<<<snip>>>>

"We worked together in an organization dedicated to promoting human rights in the country where he and I had once come for different reasons. I came to admire him for his generosity, his passion for his ideals, for the largeness of his heart, and I realized he had not been my enemy, but my countryman . . . my countryman ...and later my friend. His friendship honored me. We disagreed over much. Our politics were often opposed, and we argued those disagreements. But we worked together for our shared ideals," the senator said. "David remained my countryman and my friend, until the day of his death, at the age of 47, when he left a loving wife and three beautiful children, and legions of friends behind him. His country was a better place for his service to her, and I had become a better man for my friendship with him. God bless him."

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That's all McCain talking about Ifshin
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:16 AM
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2. so he hangs around with anti war protestors!
is there a photo?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:20 AM
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6. Check my second post - an article from the NYSun when he introduced Ifshin
I'm sure there are photos out there.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:17 AM
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3. Must We Be Negative?
Geesh! Even if you say McSame started it, that's like a couple of kids!

I think this shows the power of forgiveness and how John McCain can forgive, and by his own words even admire a man who could give comfort to an enemy, even as John McCain himself was being tortured by that enemy.

See, McCain believes in forgiving and forgetting.

:eyes:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:20 AM
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5. It's more about the hypocrisy
Ayers has many times stated he regrets what he's done back in the 60s but that means shit to the McCain team. So seriously why should I give a flying fuck if McCain forgives this guy - they are friends and therefore it should be questioned.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:25 AM
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7. if the shoe was on the other foot
The GOP would be all over it. Since it's John McCain it is forbidden turf.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:27 AM
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8. I don't think Obama should use this - it's beneath him
but I think the rest of us should. It's important to see this hypocrisy. McCain calls this person his friend. Obama has never called Ayers his friend, just served with him on a board run by a conservative republican.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:31 AM
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9. you are right
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:17 AM
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4. Treason! Boo! Boo!
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 10:18 AM by leftofthedial
Dangerous! Terrorist! Hold him down and tickle him! Boo!

(I got a temp job recording audience tracks for Palin speeches.)
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