Obama to McCain: "Say It To My Face"

[kpete]

Obama to McCain: "Say It To My Face"

In an interview on ABC News, Sen. Barack Obama called Sen. John McCain's attempts to link him to 1960s anti-war radical Bill Ayers are an attempt to "score cheap political points."

Then he issued a challenge to his rival.

Said Obama: "I am surprised that, you know, we've been seeing some pretty over-the-top attacks coming out of the McCain campaign over the last several days, that he wasn't willing to say it to my face. But I guess we've got one last debate. So presumably, if he ends up feeling that he needs to, he will raise it during the debate."

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2008/10/08/obama_to_mccain_say_it_to_my_face.html
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5985237&page=1

[tblue]

1. I wish BO had said that last night!

[Cha]

33. That was then and this is now..and it's perfect.

It's a challenge and we'll see if mccain is up to it or does he know Obama will unleash the Keating5 hounds of hell on him if he does?

[occe]

Interesting

Good way for Obama to come out. :)

[Hutzpa]

8. Whats that suppose to mean???????

:shrug:

[occe]

13. What the hell?

What's up with you guys? I said "Good way for Obama to come out" as in, it's a good thing that he's talking about why McCain didn't bring it up.

I am a huge Obama supporter.

Nice way for you all to dump on a new poster.

[RollWithIt]

21. Eh, ignore that, Welcome!

BTW, it's almost like Obama WANTS McCain to say it in a debate. Like he's got some huge gotcha ready for it.

[Hutzpa]

32. Looks like we know each other

huh!

must have left a mark...


:evilgrin:

[Hutzpa]

29. Ok

lemme Splain to you how this works, your statement was an open statement
without specifics, especially from a newbie hence the responses.

In the future, its best you explain yourself properly so everyone can
understand what you meant till folks gets used to your writing.


Oh! by the way...

Welcome to DU....

:hi:

[Curtland1015]

43. In what other worldly dimension could you misinterpret what he said as a negative thing?

Really now...

[TorchTheWitch]

53. no, it works like this - curb your excessive paranoia

occe made a perfectly relevant comment that made perfect sense in context, and you bugged out trying to make it mean something completely irrelevant because he/she is new. No new person or long time lurker with a low post count deserves to be jumped on and have every word they say dissected because of the bizarre paranoia over trolls that contaminates this place. If your excessive paranoia gets your panties twisted in a bunch you know what the alert button is for.

You owe occe an apology, not snarky uncalled for comments about how YOU would like them to post or how things work here. How things work here was set up very well by the admins and is controlled very well by the mods, you know how that system works, and you know it's not the fictitious "feed my excessive paranoia" process you'd like it to be.

[Inspired]

9. Huh? Your comment needs some explaining.

[occe]

18. Explained above

Tell me why you guys are dumping on a new poster?

[Inspired]

25. Because your comment could be misread, that is why.

But thanks for the explanation....and seriously, welcome to the DU. I was new once too.

[hvn_nbr_2]

39. There are some sensitivities here

We've had a lot of trolls and wingnut disruptors here in recent months. Some people are highly and sometimes overly suspicious of newbies. Especially if there's any possibility of multiple interpretations of things they say, then people jump to conclusions. There are also suspicions of people who run up a lot of posts in a short time (such as your 137 in three days), even though that is as likely to indicate an enthusiastic newbie as to indicate a paid Republican operative who is here to disrupt.

Welcome to DU.:hi:

[On the Road]

48. It's Because Some People Here

read too much into things and despite the rules have an itchy trigger finger on the accusation gun. Despite appearances, it is not universal.

Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[SwampG8r]

49. dont worry its nothing

i have been called everything allowable here and i frankly dont give a crap
welcome to DU

[whopis01]

55. Because it is what some people here really like to do. n/t

[lamp_shade]

12. Hmmm... still here, eh?

[occe]

16. Yes?

After supporting Obama since last year, do you expect me to leave?

[faithfulcitizen]

34. Welcome to du! Du'ers are especially tough on newbies. I knew what you meant. ;)

[DRoseDARs]

52. occe, your meaning came through loud and clear. Some folks just have their radios turned too low.

Meh, ignore that noise. Welcome to DU. :hi:

[YDogg]

2. kick it

[SoonerPride]

3. He just called him a chicken shit on national TV.

And everyone knows it is true.

[smb]

40. McChicken has no McNuggets

[complain jane]

44. LOL

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. Barack, it's time to call out this doddering old phony

Put up or shut up, Gramps.

[Chichiri]

5. Need video.

Need video now.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

6. Ahem....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7348361

[Hope08]

So funny, I immediately thought of this post

Glad he took the advice.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

19. This is one coincidence that actually makes me smile. nt

[crossroads]

23. Welcome to DU Hope08! nt

[SwampG8r]

51. this is the best place

ever to get a visual or a documented proof of something
put a call out for what you need and DU responds

welcome to DU

[rucky]

54. Yep. You called it.

[JuniperLea]

7. Good!

The coward needs to put up or shut up!

[Pirate Smile]

10. McCain will have his wife or Sarah say it while he hides behind them.

Coward

[crossroads]

22. He hides behind a couple of skirts! What a maverick!

No honor and no hero!

:eyes:

[Youphemism]

11. Obama is using McCain's nasty comments to bait him. It's the temper thing...

He knows that the "He's not brave enough to say that to my face" tact will raise McCain's ire, and bring up the temperament thing.

If McCain mentions it at the debate, he'll look desperate, angry, and erratic. If he doesn't, he'll have backed down.

In the meantime, it will gnaw at McCain and could get him angry enough to make more mistakes.

Obama is really good at this stuff. When many people were frustrated that he didn't show more emotion to "connect with the public," he stayed his course. That same detachment is what's making him appear presidential as McCain flops around like a beached fish.

[dgibby]

26. McCain keeps coming to the intellectual war unarmed!

[TexasObserver]

38. "Why, I'll show you, you young whipper snapper!"

Yep, he's baiting Grumpy, and Grumpy will take the bait.

I can hardly wait to see him get that chicken wing flapping when he gets mad.

[Phx_Dem]

14. Wow. He brought it right to McCain and dumped it in his lap!

[DeepBlueC]

15. If McCain says it to Barack, then BO gets to respond

THAT'S why the smear only comes up when Barack is not there. They know very well that the response will sink this leaky ship for good and all. :shrug:

[Imagevision]

17. Mccain would never bring it up on TV debate - Keating 5 is more detrimental then Ayers story

[barack the house]

20. Exactly, if McCain considers himself any kind of man and has the courage of his convictions then he>

should come out and say what he means. It simply is that he deosn't mean it.

[Waiting For Everyman]

24. McC is a coward.

[abburdlen]

27. Josh Marshall's 'Bitch Slap theory'

Originally used as an explanation for the swift boat attacks it seems quite relevant here.

Consider for a moment what the big game is here. This is a battle between two candidates to demonstrate toughness on national security. Toughness is a unitary quality, really -- a personal, characterological quality rather than one rooted in policy or divisible in any real way. So both sides are trying to prove to undecided voters either that they're tougher than the other guy or at least tough enough for the job.

In a post-9/11 environment, obviously, this question of strength, toughness or resolve is particularly salient. That, of course, is why so much of this debate is about war and military service in the first place.

One way -- perhaps the best way -- to demonstrate someone's lack of toughness or strength is to attack them and show they are either unwilling or unable to defend themselves -- thus the rough slang I used above. And that I think is a big part of what is happening here. Someone who can't or won't defend themselves certainly isn't someone you can depend upon to defend you.

I'm just not sure if Obama slapped McCain or answered McCain's slap. Whichever it is, Obama won this round (just like the previous 722 rounds)

[StreetKnowledge]

28. Nicely done Barack....

....honestly, a good move. McLame's guys got the balls to blast Obama and Biden in the media, but haven't got the balls to say things to Barack's face.

[bigtree]

30. right on

great quote.

[Phx_Dem]

31. VIdeo.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5985237&page=1

[Barrymores Ghost]

35. K&R!

:kick:

[Raschel]

36. Can't believe he said this.

Time for the TKO. I love it.

[my2sense]

37. In other words McCain - you're a damn coward

and Obama says "bring it".

:rofl: :rofl:

[Mz Pip]

41. McCain shook hands

with the friend of a terrorist. He should be ashamed. We should demand that Mccain explains himself. Right. Fucking. Now.

[smb]

42. Another Great Use Of Language Later In The Story

"Frankly, you know, Senator McCain ended up lurching from place to place on this issue," he said. "And that, I think, is not the kind of leadership that we're going to need if we're going to be able to guide the economy out of this perilous position."

That phrase "lurching from place to place" is just perfect -- it ties in McCain's erratic judgment with his physical performance at the debate, where at times he was shambling around like an extra from Dawn of the Dead. It could grow into the sort of "physical and mental bumbling" meme that afflicted Gerald Ford.

[drb]

45. That's a master stroke!

If McCain doesn't bring it up in the next debate, he's a chicken shit. If he does, Obama's got him.

It's gonna be COOL!!!!!!

[intheflow]

46. But-- but-- but--

John's not saying it, Sarah is!

:nopity:

[Jennicut]

47. Wow snap!

Obama laying it down for McCrap...put up or shut up!

[SwampG8r]

50. and that "my friends"

is whats known on the street as a "call out"
as in
come out here and say it to my face and see if i dont kick your ass into the next time zone mf'er
and if mccain dont come out for his asskicking
thats whats known on the street as "being punked"

[FatDave]

56. Hope he brings it up on the trail.

Spend the next week calling McCain a coward. He'd snap.

[skooooo]

57. oh snap!

McCain's trying to be schoolyard bully. Ain't gonna work on Obama!

[ProSense]

58. Video

here

[cui bono]

59. Yeah Johnnyboy... say it to his face!

Or are you a coward? The people do not want a coward for president!

[FloridaGrl]

60. Be a man McChicken and

tell it to my face. I love this Obama- I knew you had it in you!

[Alter Ego]

61. Hahaha...it calls McCain a coward without calling him a coward.

[Stockholm]

62. I love it!

Calling McCain and Palin cowards and forcing them to adress it during the next debate (or Obama will probably do it himself).

Sweet!

[lebkuchen]

63. "Say it to my chest"

I've read several stories about McCain pointing his finger into other people's chest. That's about as high as McCain can reach, POW injuries or not. He's a short guy.

Has anyone decked McCain in the last ten years for his bullying? From what I've read, he deserves it.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

64. lol! NT