Ok so how is it not a game changer?

[Egnever]

I keep hearing over and over this morning on the TV that despite the fact that every single pol once again shows Obama winning the debate in a blow out that it changes nothing.

WTF?

Its as if the only way the debates could affect anything is if Mcsame won them. I am not sure if I have ever seen a more biased coverage of an election.

Obama kicked Mcsames ass! In poll after poll he trounced mcsame yet it changes nothing....

So let me see if I have this right yet... No matter how well Obama does it means nothing the only thing that matters in this election is how well the old white guy does. All of his gaffes and lies are ignored and only the positives are explored while the black guys positives are "not game changers" but any possible negative is.

Right got it.

FU MEDIA WHORES!

[Yukari Yakumo]

1. 'Cause McInsane's poll numbers were already sinking like a stone

And this debate will do nothing to stop that from continuing on.

[Egnever]

12. Aprently its not ok to say Mcsame lost and this will not help him

the only way to say it is it changes nothing....

Well the hell with that. I say it made mcsame look like a fool yet again and that it will affect his numbers negatively. I say last night increased Obamas lead!

I say last night destroyed any chance of mcsame comeback...


I say Obama kicked the old farts ass and gramps ill probably never recover from it.


Changed nothing my ass that is minimizing Obamas big win last night and its intentional.

[gravity]

2. Obama is still winning

and it doesn't look like it is going to change.

[DemzRock]

3. I know what you mean.

If it helps Obama, then it's nothing.

But if it helps McCain, Whoopeee!!!

That's the corporate media.

But, on the other hand, a "game changer" would mean it would be something that would make a major change to the current trends, no?

[TwilightGardener]

4. If Obama does well, he gets no credit, but he gets all the damage

if he gaffes or if he's perceived to be "on the defensive" from McStupid's attacks. But for me, the worst analysis by far is the insinuation that McShitbrains would be winning if not for that damn financial meltdown. Sorry, the Palin novelty would have worn off even if she didn't expose herself as semi-retarded and phony.

[Egnever]

20. That too!

as if palin wasnt a train wreck for all to see. If anything it gave her a pass from the media as they had bigger fish to fry. Now she is out on the stump spewing her garbage with no one questioning her at all. I say the economy tanking could have saved mcsames ass if he had the brains to take advantage of it precicesly because it took the focus away from his totaly incompetant running mate.

[timber84]

5. Obama is not the one who needs a game changer.

McCain does, and it didn't happen. Obama has a clear lead to victory going into the final stretches.

[FightingIrish]

6. It was more like a clincher

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

7. McCain could have literally set himself on fire and it wouldn't have been "a game changer"

At least not in the minds of media morons that profit from keeping this a race for as long as possible.

[TheCowsCameHome]

16. Cindy serving him divorce papers half way through might have stirred it up.

Alas, he's still sliding away.

[On the Road]

8. By Itself, It Wasn't a Game Changer

but it served to harden attitudes that had been developing already. That's the killer. Even the financials channels and Republican talking heads are seeing it. It's becoming commonly accepted wisdom.

[dmallind]

9. Not as bad as it sounds

Obama is SUPPOSED to beat him in debates, and Obama has a handy and, in most important states, increasing lead over McCain.

The debates won't change any of the above, nor should they be expected to. Essentially the only people who will vote for McCain are the unreachable partisans, the Republican by default apathetics and the closet bigots. The debates can't change that, and don;t need to.

The only way the debates could change the outcome IS if McCain did brilliantly, that's true. But the flipside of that is that we don;t want the debate to change anything and McCain is not likely to do brilliantly in his last shot.

It's unrealistic to expect debates to make this an 80/20 historic blowout, and it's unnecessary for them to change an already rosy picture for the good guys.

[phleshdef]

10. Not disagreeing, but I don't think everyone saying it means it the way you are taking it...

...I mean, yea, its true. The debate was not a game changer. Before the debate, Obama looked to be solidifying the front runner status, perhaps beyond any chance of a reversal. After kicking McCain's ass for the second debate in a row, Obama still looks to be solidifying the front runner status, perhaps beyond any chance of a reversal. Hence, the game hasn't changed, Obama is STILL winning.

[Egnever]

15. I understand what you are saying here

However I think saying its not a game changer minimizes Obamas success last night and has the effect of portraying the debate as a tie when it clearly was not

[southpaw]

11. The way things stand

a 'game changer' would, by definition, be an event that puts McCain in the lead or, at minimum reverse the trends we have been seeing in the last few weeks.


I, for one, don't want to see a game changer between now and Nov. 4.


On the other hand, I would welcome any event that might drive Obama even further up in the polls or McCain further down.

[TheCowsCameHome]

13. McCain needed the game changer. He failed to sway anyone last night..

He lost ground (time) by not picking up undecideds.

[rocktivity]

14. Having fallen behind, it's McCain's game to change

and the debate was his next-to-last gasp opportunity to regain the ground Palin had unearthed. But his stale, mechanical talking points, uninspiring demeanor and downright anti-social behavior forced the corporate media to come up with new ways of explaining how Obama's win was actually a draw.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Egnever]

17. Exaclty what I am saying!

Thank you!

[screembloodymurder]

18. Because they're not counting those votes.

The fix is in.

[rucky]

19. McCain succeeded in leaving voters confused.

by distorting Obama's record and policies every chance he got.

[kurt_cagle]

21. What's astonishing is not that the media is trying to support McCain

This was a given - No one here honestly expected that the MSM would act any differently.

What is astonishing is that the main stream media is now being forced to accept the Obama phenomena, and are adjusting their message accordingly, even if they are doing it kicking and screaming.

The media has ceded the election at this point - and are now jockeying for places at the table of a new administration. However, politics being politics, they're also making sure they don't piss off their own audience in the process, so are having to make such changes as unobtrusively as possible.

[iiibbb]

22. 1) McCain was the one that needed a game-changer.

2) It wasn't one. Game changer implies sweeping changes of heart. Independents don't change their minds quickly unless there's a meltdown of some kind.

[billyoc]

23. It's possible that national poll numbers just can't get any better/worse these days.

:shrug:

[Matariki]

24. It's NOT a game changer, because Obama was winning - and is still winning.