Debate FACT CHECK (CNN) --not so good for McCain :-)

[underpants]

Fact Check: Did Obama get second-most money from Freddie and Fannie?
VERDICT: Misleading. No donations actually came from the companies. One method of measuring employee contributions does put Obama second overall, but another, for the current election cycle, shows McCain receiving significantly more.

Fact Check: Did McCain join, or lead on Fannie-Freddie reform?
The Statement
Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama said at the Oct. 7 presidential debate in Nashville, Tennessee, "With respect to Fannie Mae, what Sen. McCain didn't mention is the fact that this bill that he talked about wasn't his own bill. He jumped on it a year after it had been introduced and
it never got passed."
The Verdict: True. McCain's warning came more than a year after legislation was introduced. He was not the sponsor and the bill failed to pass.

Fact Check: Has Obama never 'taken on' Democratic leaders?
Verdict: False. While McCain is correct that Obama has supported the Democratic leadership almost all of the time, to say he's never differed with them is not true.

Fact Check: Did Obama vote 94 times for higher taxes?
Verdict:
Misleading. McCain's summary ignores the fact that some of the votes were for measures to lower taxes for many Americans, while increasing them for a much smaller number of taxpayers. A nonpartisan examination also finds that the 94 total includes multiple votes on the same measures and budget votes that would not directly lead to higher taxes.

Fact Check: Did McCain oppose sending Marines to Lebanon in the 80s?
Verdict: True

Fact Check: Did McCain intervene on behalf of Charles Keating?
The Verdict: True. McCain did push to delay regulations that would have cracked down on savings-and-loans practices and intervened on Keating's behalf, although he was cleared of wrongdoing in the "Keating Five" case.

Fact check: What did Obama say about troops in Afghanistan?
The Statement:
In an ad released Monday, October 6, titled "Dangerous," Sen. John McCain's campaign asserts that Sen. Barack Obama "says our troops in Afghanistan are 'just air-raiding villages and killing civilians.'"
The Verdict:
False. The McCain ad inaccurately presents this as Obama's current position, citing a an out-of-context comment from more than a year ago.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/category/fact-check/

[JohnMcCant2008]

1. The rethugs HATE all this pesky fact checking. "The Google" is their worst enemy... n/t

[catgirl]

2. K & R

[Hope And Change]

3. K & R!

[SmokingJacket]

4. kickaroni nt

[Overseas]

5. K&R ///

[Schulzz]

6. McCain lie counter website added 20 lies after the debate.

http://www.mccainpedia.org/index.php/Count_the_Lies

An improvement for McCain, up from 14 in the first debate :puke:

[craz3z]

7. And another thing regarding that Fannie-Freddie reform bill

Chuck Hagel re-introduced it as S.1100 in 2007. McCain never sponsored it or gave a speech to try and advance it. As it turns out, it was the Democratic congress that finally passed reform in 2008.

[underpants]

8. Exacty and Welcome to DU

:hi:

The 2005 proposal was a "shell game" to actually DE-regulate it more

[Duppers]

9. the rethug AP's headline: "Debate fact check: McCain, Obama both stretch truth"

"WASHINGTON - Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain stretched facts, sometimes past the breaking point, during their second presidential debate.

Some examples:

• Obama: "Actually I'm cutting more than I'm spending so that it will be a net spending cut."

• The facts: Obama has many ambitious plans to spend more taxpayer dollars on a variety of federal programs, including clean energy technologies and job training. He's said he'll cut pork-barrel programs and the costs of the war in Iraq to pay for it — as well as raise taxes on the wealthy — but the specifics of his plans greatly outweigh the few spending cuts he's ID'd....."
http://www.dailypress.com/news/local/newsletter/dp-news_facts_1008oct08,0,2227362.story

Of course, it would be the 'Daily DePress' headline, being the asshole rethugs they are!

They cannot point out the HUGE disparity.

[underpants]

12. The Daily Mess

That is not nearly as bad as our Richmond Times-Disgrace here. The "From Wire Reports" articles are incredible works of fiction.

:hi: in the 'burg!!!

I grew up in York County

[Hellataz]

10. I actually took the time to go through a few pages of CNN fact check

and it was very interesting, for the most part Obama has always told the truth, with a couple of exceptions but they were more misunderstandings on his part, not outright lies.
The most attacks and Accusations were from the McCain camp and when looking at all their statements most were misleading to downright false, in fact a large number were false.
But the further back in article I went i noticed that the McCain campaign was less opt to lying and while it had more accusation, was pretty close to Obama on the truth scale, that was up until this last month, it's been pretty much downhill and lies lies lies. One last interesting thing was most of the time McCain and Palin told the truth was when they talked about themselves, not about Obama, while Obama told the truth about both he and McCain's records.

[mzmolly]

11. K and R

This is a keeper, thanks!