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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:55 PM
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I hate to say this, but I'm glad Gore lost
everytime I see Lieberman. He could have been next in line. Everytime I think that half of my vote in 2000 was for his part of that ticket, I want to puke.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:55 PM
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1. I like Gore, but his pick of lieberman was disastrous.
but i still wish Gore had won.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:19 PM
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20. Can't argue with that. Gore's choice was much more like McCain's than Obama's ...
... a short-term choice to *supposedly* help him get elected, rather than the strongest partner for governing.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:55 PM
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2. Well hopefully we could assume that Lieberman wouldn't have "Cheney'd" the position.
So he would have been a mostly-powerless tool in the background.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:57 PM
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3. :\
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Even though it means 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, and economic crisis likely would have been prevented. Oh, and New Orleans would have probably been handled far better.

But, as long as your stomach is not churning over the thought of Lieberman, it's cool.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:59 PM
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7. Well, I didn't mean it quite that way.
Sigh...

The thought of Lieberman ever being the head of the party or the ticket just makes me queasy. I wish Gore hadn't picked him.
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:57 PM
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4. Lieberman is a petty little man. He needs a mute button. n/t
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:57 PM
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5. Do you remember who our President is right now?
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:01 PM
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8. See response #7....
I'm exhausted now and probably could have been less reactive and more thoughtful in my post. Just take away from this that I loathe Lieberman just as much as I don * and his band of merry men.
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Sodan Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 05:58 PM
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6. OMG...
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:01 PM
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9. Not to mention the 2000 loss makes a 2008 victory all the more sweet...
....... we gotta keep pressin' on! We're almost home!
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Bubbha Jo Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:03 PM
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10. Lieberman isn't even close as bad as the loss of lives in Iraq
I'd put up with him as VP if it meant the troops wouldn't have been sent into an unnecessary war.
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:06 PM
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11. I disagree
But then Gore did win. I do have to question why he chose Lieberman and why Kerry toyed with picking McCain.

I am SO GLAD OBAMA PICKED BIDEN!
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:07 PM
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12. Even more disturbing, as incumbent VP, he probably would have waltzed
Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 06:08 PM by tritsofme
his way to the 2008 nomination.

Obama would be a state rep at worst, a mere senator today at best.

President Lieberman? Please God, no.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:07 PM
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13. Even Lieberman would not have been as bad as Bush/Cheney.
Not even close.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:07 PM
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The Lieberman of then was still a little sane
Unfortunately war has turned him to the dark side. These 8 years are just not worth a Gore loss. 9/11 would have been prevented, civil liberties would still be in place, the economy wouldn't be a mess, there would be no wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:07 PM
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14. No way.
We would have replaced at least O'Connor, and probably Rehnquist.

I'll forever be bitter about Gore's loss. What a world-changing event..
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:09 PM
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15. As much as I dislike him now, Joe Lieberman wouldn't be half as bad as what we've just been through
No way.
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Tektonik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:10 PM
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16. Nothing, not even Lieb, could be worse than the past 8 years
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:11 PM
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17. I still am not glad Gore lost. We wouldn't have had the Iraq War
even with Lieberman, because he'd know we needed Iraq to balance out Iran's power.

Lieberman would probably have gone along with Gore's plan to unite with intelligence systems all over the globe to hunt down and prosecute OBL. They would both have wanted to fight a much more efficient war on terror. They would both have seen the value in aid programs as vital elements of any war on terror.

Etc Etc Etc.

But I haven't seen Lieberman's latest defense of the warmonger McLiar, so I don't know what has driven you to such a declaration.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:15 PM
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18. I despise Lieberman but I can NEVER agree with your premise...As vp Lieberman
could have been put to some use working on any issue other than fpreign policy. He would only have been the 2008 nominee if he could convince enough Democrats that he deserved it.

Sit quietly for a moment and think about what you said....."I'm glad Gore lost".

Think about the last 8 years, Iraq, John Roberts, Alito, wiretapping, torture, the destruction of civil liberties.....you would swap what we've lost just because you don't like Joe Lieberman?

I've read you for quite a few years now and that statement doesn't fit.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:17 PM
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19. And I'm sorry to hear you say it. As, I expect, are hundreds of millions ...
... around the globe, from those who've lost families in this country, to the millions displaced in Iraq.

Lieberman is a waste of water, but it's inarguable that the world would be in a much better condition had our country not experienced a judicial coup.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:21 PM
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21. Have to disagree completely
Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 06:22 PM by Uzybone
Gore losing gave us Bush. 2 terms of Bush. the worst president (at least in the bottom 5) in US history.

Gore losing gave us 9/11, Iraq, Guantanamo, Alito/Roberts, torture, Abu Ghraib, Katrina, warrant-less wiretapping, and 8 year freeze on renewable energy, etc.

Lieberman? I don't know what to make of him. He disgusts me now, but I think somewhere along the line he lost his mind.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:23 PM
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22. Gore is much improved in the intervening years.
Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 06:23 PM by Orsino
Lieberman is like Dorian's portrait.
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:31 PM
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23. Hundreds of thousands dead because of Oedipus Tex and you're glad Gore lost?
Dick Cheney, is that you?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:34 PM
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24. I think I would gratefully take one for the team on that score...
Edited on Mon Oct-06-08 06:34 PM by Juniperx
I'd rather subject myself to the stupidity, hypocrisy, and droning speech patterns of LIEberman if it meant saving all the lives lost in Iraq... and I'm betting Gore wouldn't have let 9/11 happen either. I'm betting he would have paid attention to the memos, etc.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:34 PM
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25. I think you're a moron. IF GORE HAD BEEN PRESIDENT.....
VERY GOOD CHANCE 9/11 would not have happened!!!

We would NOT be in a war in Iraq that has killed millions of people.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-08 06:35 PM
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26. I think the premise is wrong
If Gore had become president, we never would have gone into Iraq, and if you take Iraq completely off the table as an issue, Lieberman is a pretty solid dem. It just so happens the issue of Iraq became as polarizing as the issue of abortion, thus, just like we wouldn't accept a pro life vice president, we can't think of accepting a pro-Iraq war vice president.
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