Ed Schultz: GOP Insiders McCain close to pulling out of Minnesota

[RamboLiberal]

This in email from Ed Schultz and he mentioned in first hour of his show today.

FROM BIG EDDIE:
Sunday night I was told by Capitol Hill insiders the polling after Tuesdays
debate will determine McCains next shift in resources. McCain will trim operations
in Minnesota this week and may be out of the state by the end of the week.
Obama has opened a solid double digit lead in the Gopher state. Some McCain insiders
feel the state is already lost coupled by the fact that Al Franken is now leading
Senator Norm Coleman.

Sources with knowledge of the campaign are telling me this will be a crucial week for McCain.
All Minnesota efforts will be reallocated to Ohio, Florida and possibly Virginia.

The McCain camp is now expecting the 527's to attack Obama on character in an
attempt to shift the conversation and focus off the economy. One source told me
tonight "We are definitely in need of a game changer"

[LisaM]

1. What?? The state where Palin's accent came from?

Say it ain't so!

[AllieB]

6. I think you meant: "Say it ain't soooo, Jooo."

:D

[LisaM]

13. Ya betcha!

It sounds better when I mock, I mean imitate, her in person!

[northernsoul]

8. *Ahem*

That woman does not sound at all like any genuine Minnesotan I've ever met. She sounds more like someone from Buffalo, NY trying to imitate a Minnesota accent.

[rosesaylavee]

18. Thank you

My mother's family is from Minnesota and northern Iowa. Palin's accent sounds like a caricature of my northern relatives - far too harsh and too folksy for Minnesota.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

49. In NW Minnesota there are plenty of people who sound

like Mooselini. Minnesotans settled the valley in Alaska where she grew up. That's the real knucklehead rural MN accent, you betcha.

[dflprincess]

51. I've said that she sounds like a cross between the accent in "Fargo" and upstate New York

I lived near Buffalo, NY when I was kid and I can still do the accent when I think about ( and when I try to sound like Palin, I find myself doing a cross between Mrs. Lundegard and Stephanie Miller when she says "Tonawanda" or "Cheektawaga".)

The last time I was in NYC I had a store clerk ask me if I was from Buffalo (this is like 30 years after I'd lived there) and when I told her Minnespolis she said I didn't sound like I was from Minnesota. :eyeroll:

[Cha]

58. She sounds like an idiot hopped up

on crack.

[Rambis]

2. Yeah!

I just got back from Northern MN this am and boy there were a lot of McPalin signs up there. Thank god for the cities! I must say being without tv and radio for a week has advantages.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

41. There are snowbillies in MN

no doubt about it. The Iron Range and the urban areas remain bluer than blue, but we have our cross to bear here in the North Country, Fortunately we vote more consistently than the nitwits.

[Rambis]

46. keep up the good work

seems like the ones that did have the McPalin signs had really big ones. Funny that:)

[dflprincess]

3. Thank God -

I won't have to watch any more of the God awful ads he's been running here non-stop.

On the other hand, it was just announced in the last couple days that McCain would be in Minnesota on October 10 (stopping only in 2 areas that are Republican strongholds).

[MindMatter]

25. Well, then those should be canceled shortly. Let us know.

[zulchzulu]

4. I heard that McCrap is leaving Wisconsin as well

They have a shitty ground game here anyway...so the 1989 Vega station wagon will go to Ohio...

[northernsoul]

5. Please, please, please let this be true!

If I have to watch another McCain propaganda piece on my teevee, I'm gonna yack!

[myrna minx]

16. Hi NS.

:hi: This news, combined with the most recent poll makes all of the "Minnesota Panic" threads from this weekend look even more silly. If you missed it, one poster was busy posting the OH NO! We're LOSING Minnesota11!111 threads. Not one Minnesotan agreed with him, but that didn't stop him from stirring the pot.

It was a bit reminiscent of the "nuclear bomb" threats to the Twin Cities in October of 2004. :rofl: I loved it when Seventhson was posting that the Military was deploying out of the downtown Minneapolis armory, when he didn't realize that the armory had been defunct since the 1970's. Oh that didn't stop the craziness, though. :eyes:

How are you? I can't wait for Senator Franken and Obama. :hi:

[woolldog]

37. actually, several Minnesotans on here agreed with me and were

worried about how close McCain was in MN. (If you want I can give you links to their posts).

That said, I'm glad it's not close anymore.

[myrna minx]

50. Please do, because I've reread the threads and cannot find one Minnesotan that was worried.

We know our own state.

I can't find one here....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=7302396

I can't find one here either.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=7307955#7307965

and not one here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=7307295

[woolldog]

52. Then you didn't read very carefully:

StClone: " Minnesota is close Why?

I lived and worked in the twin Cities suburb of Arden Hills area for six years in the 90's. I thought MN was Democratic but listening to the newly wealthy of that place and time was instead a hatred of Humphrey and Democrats. The Iron Rangers (especially Radio Personally Steve Canon) were still strong Dems but it was over whelmed by the cities that were going Conservative fast."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7307955#7308051

MN Treehugger:

"23. There are quite a few McLiverSpot signs in the suburbs

But they tend to be in higher "swing" areas. I really can't see MN going red.

I can tell you that it's been difficult to get yard signs here. It took me about three weeks to get mine and they were almost out by the time I got there (and they had just gotten them in)."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=7302396#7302412


Eric J in MN

"21. Obama should make another high-profile visit to MN.

He made a low-profile fundraising trip recently, but his two big events in MN (a big rally in Minneapolis before the Feb caucus and a big rally in St. Paul after clinching the nomination) were a relatively long time ago.

I'd like it if Obama gave a speech in southern MN, the Twin Cities area, and northern MN in one day."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=7307295#7307331

[myrna minx]

53. These 3 posts (out of 3 threads) are hardly indicative of "We're losing Minnesota".

I did indeed read those posts, and while St Clone's post indicates a trend in the 1990's of the nouveau riche in the suburbs (which is no surprise to those of us who live here), did they think we are losing Minnesota?

Treehugger has seen many MCain/Palin signs in the suburbs (which isn't strange at all) and they wished for more Obama signs.

And finally, Eric is hoping for Obama to return (I'd like that too!), but these are hardly being in agreement with We're Losing Minnesota!

In fact most disagreed.

On Edit: Had Pawlenty been selected for VP, this would have changed the whole scenario, but aside a local on the ticket, Minnesota is not giving our electoral votes to McCain.

[woolldog]

57. I never said Obama was losing Minnesota

The subject was "Obama losing Minnesota." I was not saying Obama is losing Minnesota. I was not making a prediction or describing the state of the race there. It was a call for discussion on the subject of "Obama losing Minnesota", whether MN was slipping away or not and whether that was actually possible or likely.

All three posters I quoted seemed anxious for a greater investment of Obama campaign resources in MN. That shows some concern on their part that the state might be slipping away or was at least vulnerable, which is all I was noting.

Let's drop this. It wasn't necessary to bring my old thread into this discussion in the first place. Both of us are glad he's pulling away in Minnesota.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

43. Myrna, you are so right

The last use of the Armory was for rock concerts packed by dope smoking hippies back in the 1970s. A drummer I knew snorted coke with Ozzie Osbourne back in 1972 in the Armory. It has been closed for years. :rofl: MN is going to elect Senator Al Franken and help elect President Barack Obama by large margins. Franken and Klobuchar - the only state we have to be jealous of is MA, with Kennedy and Kerry!

[myrna minx]

54. Welcome back MN ChimpH8R.

:hi: I can't wait for Senator Franken and Obama! :toast:

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

60. Awwww Thanks myrna!

Let me know when there's a Minneapolis meet up. I am an Aspie and don't always get the message. Not the most social person in the world. PM me!

[underpants]

7. Couldn't ride the coat tails of Norm Coleman huh?

I guess there is now Pawlenty more to regret about the Palin pick.

[zbdent]

9. I guess having the GOP convention there really worked!

Good job!

:rofl:

[nolabels]

55. What up with that anyway?

The street gangs doing drive bys have more credibility than the want-to-be thugs with (R)'s in front of the name . They pugs steal money from the government to help fund riots, pay for the inevitable lawsuits in advance, later people get all riled up then pugs leave the place with tail between legs saying they made a mistake.

Minnesota just needs to outlaw anything with republican brand on it, it would really save them a lot of money, time and grief :shrug:

[Historic NY]

10. He can forget Virginia Obama has wide open lead now.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7332984&mesg_id=7332984

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7333372

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4178107

[democrattotheend]

36. I'm still not putting Virginia solidly in our column

I live in Virginia and want to win it badly but I don't think we can call it safe yet despite what the polls say. The state has not gone Democrat in a presidential election in 44 years. Jim Webb is more conservative (and white) than Obama and he won the Senate race by less than 1,000 votes. I think it's doable but I think the polls out of Virginia today are a little too optimistic.

[Owl]

11. Good riddance!

[BumRushDaShow]

12. Please please have him leave PA too.

This state hasn't voted for a repuke President since 1988, so it's not like it was one of the red states in recent elections. And he needs to deal with the fact that he ain't gonna "steal" this state either.

[mvd]

14. Hope it's my state of PA next

:-)

[democrattotheend]

38. Pulling out of Pennsylvania would be the dumbest thing McCain could do

Obama may be leading big in the polls but it's not safe yet. Ceding Pennsylvania would basically enable Obama to play 95% offense in Bush states, having to defend only New Hampshire, Wisconsin, and maybe Minnesota, all of which give him a little bit of a cushion through same day registration. With Michigan gone, Pennsylvania is the only big Kerry state McCain has a shot in. I know the polls show Obama with an 11-point lead, but keep in mind that Obama is below 50 in the latest tracking poll. He's leading 49-38, but of the 13 percent undecided, I would bet that at least 8-10 are actually people who are voting for McCain but don't want to admit it, most likely because they know Obama is better for them but don't want to admit that they are too racist to vote for a black man. So it's probably closer to 49-44, and until he hits 55 percent in the polls I don't think Obama can consider the state safe.

[mvd]

45. I think it's safe

I also have a better view of the undecideds than you do. He probably won't pull out next, but it might hapen the way things are going.

[ShadowLiberal]

59. Actually it's not that dumb considering McCain has been outspending Obama here in PA for forever

If anyone is investing too much of their limited resources into a state that now looks hopeless for them and is very expensive to advertise in, it's McCain, not Obama.

McCain has had more ads then Obama on the air here like forever. Lately it has gotten a lot more even, but overall McCain has probably spent like triple the cash on PA in the GE then Obama has.

[Franco72]

15. "a game changer"? Ok, there you go

DOW down again 500+... just keep talking about Ayers, about Rezko, bring em on:rofl: ! And lose bigtime in November, Landslide :party:

[ronnykmarshall]

17. I hope this also helps Al Franken.

[cascadiance]

20. Was just thinking the same thiing...

Hopefully more Democratic turnout will help him win over Coleman (one Iowa grad that I don't care for, which would have me root in this case in the reverse of the usual Minnesota/Iowa rivalry wars!)

Hopefully also more turnout will help Minneapolis get rid of those that set up the Nazi cop contingents from Minneapolis that were playing Gestapo at the Republican convention.

[myrna minx]

23. Al Franken has gone up in the polls too. Coleman and the Republican party

have waged the most vicious, personal attack ads that I've seen since the Wellstone/Coleman campaign. These ads have been runnig all the time, accusing Franken of writing rape porn etc. There is a backlash, because these types of ads don't fare well here. It just proves that Coleman, McCain and the RNC do not know their audience.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

47. None of the ads square with the ordinary guy that Franken is

People are smart enough to understand that Al was a freaking comedian. Comedians write things to try and get laughs. Some are funny, some aren't. The real Franken is a decent and honorable guy, raised in the middle class Jewish neighborhood of St Louis Park. He's the guy you see at the grocery store, but smarter. Al is as Minnesotan as it gets. The hysterical attacks of the Coleman (born and raised in NYC) campaign can't and don't square with the Al Franken than people see and know. As Al said, there are two New York Jews in this campaign. The difference is that one was born and raised in Minnesota.

[alcibiades_mystery]

19. Reduced to defending Bush states as Obama's attack opens on all fronts

McCain being overrun!!!

Get the fuck outta Minnesota!

:rofl:

[Wednesdays]

30. I was gonna say...

What's left for him to campaign in, that he hasn't pulled out of? Are Wyoming and Utah the new battleground states? :shrug:

[sellitman]

21. When is he pulling out of the USA?

No resting until that happens boys & girls.

[MindMatter]

27. When he runs out of money

[SuperTrouper]

22. Folks, the end is near...

[central scrutinizer]

24. I am sure the Florida seniors who will lose their Medicare under McW's plan

will be happy to see him so they can tar and feather him.

[Duer 157099]

26. There he goes again, waving that white flag of surrender... n/t

[budkin]

28. But he is winning MN! LMAO!

[myrna minx]

29. McCain is not winning Minnesota. n/t

[Starbucks Anarchist]

31. Marge was upset that Caribou Barbie stole her act.

[hasssan1]

32. YOU BET YA

[Thegonagle]

33. No! I hope he keeps wasting his money here. It's entertaining.

But we understand... He never had snowball's chance in hell here anyway.

I have no idea why national repukes think this is a battleground state. Sure, some "Republicans" get elected here, but except for Coleman, who is a carpetbagging former Democrat (at least that what he told the people of St. Paul so that they would elect him to his first term as mayor), and Bachman, who is an entertaining freak show, most of our state and local Republicans are probably comparable to a Mississippi "Democrat."

[RamboLiberal]

34. And Coleman only owes his term to the untimely death of Paul Wellstone

and the Repukes swiftboating the Wellstone Memorial Service for their own political gain.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

39. DicKKK: "Shoot down that fucking Jew asshole"

I will go to my grave believing that Wellstone was assassinated. A friend of mine was co-piloting Coleman's plane on that day and she told me repeatedly that there was nothing unusual about the weather conditions. She had no explanation for the Wellstone plane's crash.

Norm Coleman is human sewage. Do all Minnesotans a favor, Norm. Grab a cannonball and jump off the ship.

What a worthless piece of shit he is.

[Thegonagle]

40. Agreed. And ordinarily, I'm no conspiracy theorist, but...

Is it possible that someone, somehow, made that plane crash? He was one of very few people who care more about the truth than any political career he made for himself*, and had he survived, he might have been able to throw a wrench in CheneyCo's war machine. (*In fact, before Shrub was elected, Wellstone had been planning to retire from senate after his second term. He only decided to run again after seeing the direction those assholes were taking us.)

[democrattotheend]

35. I thought they were stepping up efforts in Minnesota

Both seem stupid to me.

[kestrel91316]

42. ******>>>>> what you just heard was the sound of my insane cackling!!!!

McSame is in full retreat people.

Maybe by the time Obama gets through with him, he'll get AZ and AK. Maybe.

[truthisfreedom]

44. McCain enlisting the help of 527s? Sorry, there can be no coordination between McLost and any 527s.

Contact the the FEC.

[chicagoexpat]

48. yeah, if I wuz a big GOP insider, I'd give a tidbit like this to Ed Schulz

not

[WindRiverMan]

56. Burn baby! Burn!

I LOVE watching the Republicans implode. It is four years too late, but I STILL can't get enough of it.