Worried about the debate on Tuesday.

[woolldog]

I think by now it's clear McCain is going to go for the jugular and his campaign will go into the gutter on race and cultural issues.

I think McCain is going ambush Obama at the debate on Obama's "associations."

They're already bringing up Ayres:

BURLINGAME, Calif. - Sarah Palin defended her claim that Barack Obama "pals around with terrorists," saying the Democratic presidential nominee's association with a 1960s radical is an issue that is "fair to talk about."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081005/ap_on_el_pr/palin_recharged

They're going to bring up some others:

Responding to reports that Sen. McCain's associations are considered fair game by Democrats, Republican strategists affiliated with the McCain campaign say they plan to highlight Obama's alleged contacts with individuals who've been linked to terrorist organizations, including Rashid Khalidi, a former PLO spokesperson and Ali Abunimah, a member of the Arab American Action Network who received a grant from the Woods Fund approved by Wm. Ayers, Obama and Khalidi.

One strategist said: "Obama needs to understand he will own his friendships with individuals that are in some cases anti-American, anti-Semitic and pro-terrorist. The American people can decide whether Obama's buddies reflect their values."

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/and_republicans_prepare_to_hig.php

Total BS but remember what happened at the Pennsylvania debate during the primaries? How off guard and rattled Obama looked when he was questioned about "associations"?

McCain is desperate and he's going to viciously attack Obama on this stuff on Tuesday.

[Drunken Irishman]

1. Not likely. Maybe the 3rd debate, but not the town hall Tuesday.

[madaboutharry]

2. Don't you trust Obama?

I am not worried. Obama will be prepared.

[elizm]

31. Exactly. Soon everyone will know...

...They can put their trust in Obama. He knows what he is doing. Those of us who have been behind him from day one have known it all along...the rest of the country is now beginning to see it! ;)

Of course, that doesn't mean that we all shouldn't be out there every day showing our support and working for him!

[TankLV]

65. So far, the RECORD and FACTS are on YOUR side...and that is reassurance enought for me...

So far, based solely on RESULTS, obama has been doing JUST FINE, thankyouverymuch...

[Voice for Peace]

3. He's not going to be off guard. Have no fear.

[LibraLiz1973]

4. Don't worry. Obama is no fool, as he has clearly proven time and again.

If that's what McCain chooses to do, Obama has an arsenal to throw back at him- and he will.

[breadandwine]

12. No he won't.

Obama has proven time and again that he brings a knife to a gunfight. He is hoping that if McCain goes negative people won't like that. Fact is, if you dump bitter herbs into somebody's soda they may not like you for it, but they still won't drink the soda. McCain is beating up Obama and Obama will not beat up McCain and sooner or later it is going to cost Obama big time. And the debate moderator is pro-McCain.

[LibraLiz1973]

13. When, exactly, have you seen Obama bring a knife to a gunfight? I totally disagree with you.

He is kicking ass. And he is kicking it harder than John Kerry ever did.
We are creaming McCain in the polls. The campaign is going great.
Why are you so down?

[endthewar]

73. The Debbie Downers can't help themselves, that's why

:rofl:

[Ichingcarpenter]

17. If you say so

I guess that's why he beat McCain in the last debate and won the nomination.

Since it cost him big time. We appreciate your support.

[Tarheel_Dem]

18. And yet he's always managed to bounce back. This election is different.

I think the polls bear me out on this. People are really concerned about the declining job market, the housing crisis, and the bleeding stock market. I agree with Michael Dukakis, who says the Obama campaign has been preparing for this all along. We shall see.

[woolldog]

19. But he always had time to bounce back.

This is different b/c we're so close to the election.

[LibraLiz1973]

21. You think this is it? That all hope is lost?

Come on. THIS is the "can't do" attitude that Republicans THRIVE on. Stop letting THEM affect your enthusiasm.
They cant win if we don't give it to them. Obama isn't quitting and neither should you.

[alcibiades_mystery]

30. People need to stop paying attention to these stupid Worry Brigade trolls

They are so consistently wrong that one need not mind them at all.

[americanstranger]

25. But he was always 'bouncing back' in polls

that were within the MOE.

This time he goes into the debate leading 5-8 points, even more in some outliers.

Besides, you have it completely backwards. It isn't Obama that needs to 'bounce back' here. It's that other guy.

Nonetheless - concern, noted. Thanks.

- as

[Drunken Irishman]

34. Obama has never trailed in this race because of McCain's slime.

The only time McCain ever took the lead in the polls were shortly after the Republican Convention. Prior to that, Obama had consistently held a 1-5 point lead nationally. Yes, it was larger in the summer, but by only 2 or 3 points.

[Tarheel_Dem]

42. No offense woolldog, but you seemed to be "worried" a lot lately.

I still remember your last "sky is falling" thread, a few days ago. We need to be pumping each other up, not posting "concern" posts. I mean, how does it help? Perhaps you should take up knitting?

[woolldog]

45. knitting?

:rofl:

My career involves thinking ahead and looking for problems, so it's a habit.

[Beetwasher]

49. "I get paid to worry and look for problems"

McCain points are not legal tender, but maybe you can trade them in for a McCain buttplug w/ all the points you've accumulated.

[Ichingcarpenter]

50. Somebody thought they could trade them for a toaster like green stamps

Do they still do that on the east coast? I remember those years ago.

[woolldog]

53. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is

and donate to this site?

[Beetwasher]

64. Now what good was that post?

No points, how are you going to get the lube?

[myrna minx]

71. Wooldog was "worried" about Minnesota, even when I posted information to the

contrary, and a little background the general mindset of the good people if Minnesota, because I am one of them, but I received no reply. :eyes: Yes, they have a lot of "concern" lately.

[Tarheel_Dem]

74. I don't understand it. Some people aren't cut out to be political junkies....

which is why I suggested "knitting". These "concerned" people really bore me, and I remember the episode you speak of re: Minnesota. It's exhausting........

[alcibiades_mystery]

27. Who's winning?

The guy who's a helluva lot smarter than YOU, that's who.

[LibraLiz1973]

44. ha ha ha

:rofl:

I love you

[Beetwasher]

48. Obama Has Proven He's Beaten The Shit Out Of Everyone Who Came Before

So what the fuck are you talking about, Einstein?

If what you say is true, how the fuck is he the nominee and leading by huge margins in all the polls?

You are fucking pathetic and transparent. Your "concern" is noted, jeenyus.

Now go cower somewhere else.

[regnaD kciN]

57. Thank you for your "concern"...

:eyes:

[TankLV]

66. RESULTS. Period. So far, the results prove you WRONG.

Obama has consistently EXCEEDED all expectations.

Every Time.

You can only base judgements on RESULTS, not irrational FEARS.

BTW, did you check under your bed for the BOOGYMAN, too?!

[Erin Elizabeth]

5. After seeing Obama in that first debate, I'm not worried.

I have no doubt he'll look fine and the more McCain tries to attack with that other shit, the more desperate he'll look.

[onecent]

23. OMG I love your kitty shirt.

Did you make it?

[MUAD_DIB]

6. A cornered rat will attack, and John is a cornered rat.

I am not so sure that even is McClown attacks that it will have the desired effect just as long as Obama reminds the people of the facts, the economy, and McCain's connection with Bush.

That's all he has to do: just keep driving the truth home.


Go ahead and let McCain spoil his depends.

[nyhuskyfan]

7. Ambushes are, by nature, surprises

There's nothing surprising about this. Obama and Co. are ready for it.

[Greg K]

8. Obama's known that this stuff was coming for a long, long time.

He should know how he's going to respond to it by now.

[Imagevision]

9. Worried? no - but Palin and Mccain will be...

[Fleshdancer]

10. If so, then they're pretty stupid to leak this strategy now instead of waiting for the debate

then again, the McCain campaign has been nothing but one stupid mistake after another. I'm confident Obama will be ready for this.

[Youphemism]

11. Nothing reeks to voters like the smell of desperation...

These attacks didn't work on Obama when they were tried before. Obama now has lots of experience dealing with them.

There's no element of surprise, either. Everybody knows what's coming.

McCain is about to destroy any legacy of honor and accomplishment he has. That's all that's going to happen.

Pretty soon, McCain's name will become synonymous with the term "sore loser." He'll be lucky if he doesn't destroy his political career by giving into the very same scum who knocked him out of the race in 2000.

[obiden]

14. YES, He better be ready to be AMBUSHED over this stuff...can't be john kerry

hit him back hard..

[TheDonkey]

15. Obama handled an earlier "kitchen sink" strategy before. He'll need to be ready to do it again

[CoffeeCat]

16. When Obama is attacked...

...the most important thing is not the content of the attacks. By now, everyone
knows that McCain is desperate and the attacks are part of a last-ditch strategy
to stop the hemorrhaging.

The most important thing is....how Obama handles this. Does he cogently fight
back, as if he were defending his own wife and children? People want to know that
a Presidential candidate is a fighter and that he will haul some major wallop on
anyone that dares to bully and manipulate.

People will want to see Obama put the smack down--really hard, if he is attacked
by something like this.

[woolldog]

20. Yes, I agree.

His performance in the PA debate when he was attacked on these and similar issues wasn't exactly awe-inspiring. That's why I'm worried. Think I may just skip watching the debate.

[NYC_SKP]

35. The PA debates were the primaries, Obama had more respect for opponents...

than to smack them down. He showed dignity and restraint, and respect for others in his party.

He's unlikely to behave quite the same way with McCain.

[Motown_Johnny]

22. I think so too, and I hope he tries it. It is a town hall. How fucking stupid can the old man be?

[MadBadger]

24. You need to stop worrying so much.

[woolldog]

37. probably....

[alcibiades_mystery]

26. When are you NOT worried?

Or rather, when are you not regaling this board with your various worries?

[Name removed]

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[BeyondGeography]

28. Not worried one bit...the death stars are all aligned for Gramps

and Obama will start putting nails in the coffin Tuesday night.

[Condem]

29. Fuck. It just hit me, that I'm going to miss it.

My Morning Jacket. I have full faith in the man. He'll get it done.

[ClarkUSA]

32. Yes, McCain is the greatest townhall debater since Cicero -- Obama will struggle hard to keep up.

:rofl:

[chascarrillo]

36. Thank you for your concern.

If you don't think that the Obama campaign has a response to an attack that was first attempted in the primaries, then you don't think much of Obama, do you?

[woolldog]

39. I saw his response to the attacks in the PA debate.

Attacks that he knew were coming. His answers were pretty lame and unconvincing then. I hope this isn't a repeat of the PA debate.

I haven't seen him handle these kinds of questions well. If he had we wouldn't still be talking about this stuff would we?

[quakerboy]

52. "If he had we wouldn't still be talking about this stuff would we?"

Yes. Yes we would. Given that the other side is still futilely boinking each other on the heads with the "Obama has a fake birth cert" crap, searching for anyone willing to listen to them, yes. A million times yes.

It would be if he had handled them truly poorly that we wouldn't be talking about it, because he would have gone back to being Senator Obama, not presidential candidate Obama.

[chascarrillo]

60. Yes, we'd still be talking about it because some of you fuckers have a fetish for losing.

I have never seen so many gutless fucking wonders as I do here. "OHMIGOD! AYERS!!!" "OMIGOD, we can't attack McCain on Charles Keating!"

Bunch of fucking wimps you all are.

Here we are, in one of the most critical elections of our lifetimes, and you all want to play armchair campaign advisors, because y'all are so fucking smart. Get a fucking grip on reality.

[stillcool]

72. I don't know about Obama's lame, unconvincing...

replies to questions asked, but I do know the reason why 'we' are still talking about this stuff, and that's because the people on the tv are talking about it. It's the echo effect, or how 'we' perpetuate the bullshit. It is kind of funny how so many people rail against the media, yet at the same time give credence to everything that is said, isn't it?

[OwnedByFerrets]

38. I hope McSame goes vicious.....

Americans AND the media are tired of that shit.

[writes3000]

40. Wooldog, why is every post of yours about worry or someplace where Obama isn't doing well.

How is your worry helping Obama? Or helping people here fight for him?

Please try to mix it up with some positive stuff or some encouragement.

[woolldog]

43. it's not helping I suppose.

I guess I'm interested in what others think about this issue or share my concerns or whatever...

[writes3000]

47. Then can I make a gentle suggestion?

And I really mean this in a constructive way...

Instead of leading with your worry, how about you ask for ideas as well? Or thoughts?

I just got back from volunteering in Nevada on Friday. On Saturday, I helped organize a phone-bank where we made 3,000 calls for the campaign.

I'm pumped up. There's nothing like being out there to give you a real sense of how things are going.

I like your posts. I've just gotten bummed that so many seem so down lately.

[Arkansas Granny]

41. I'm sure that Obama and his campaign expect questions and accusations

about his "associations" whether they come directly from McCain or another source, especially after Palin's comments. They have very likely prepared responses for the situation. I don't think he will be caught by surprise.

[Old Codger]

46. lol

If I were Obama I think I would just laugh at him every time he lied, he will lose it big time if he gets laughed at....

[Imagevision]

51. Barack was eight years of age when Ayres was doing his bombing thing so WTF?

[sunnybrook]

54. Remember the primaries

He handled Hillary when she brought up Rezko and all that. They are totally preparing for this, won't be a surprise. Good grief the stupid Repugs are announcing their strategy to the media!

[Medusa]

55. He's been in Chicago politics.

he can handle it.

[Thrill]

56. Obama probably would love to have the chance to respond to this crap at the debate

This is the only chance he can get to speak to 60 million or more. I'm sure he would love the, are you a muslim question too.

[Tatiana]

58. Hillary prepped him well for this moment. He'll be fine. n/t

[TankLV]

68. WE HAVE A WINNER!!!

[FVZA_Colonel]

59. Well, he's a smart guy, so I doubt we'd see a repeat of Pennsylvania.

I imagine a good deal of the practice debating being done right now does involve questions of association (beneficial beyond the debate, as it lets him formulate ahead of time responses he can use then.)

[Thegonagle]

61. Wha? The debate is the best possible place (for our side) for McCrybaby to bring this stuff up.

Because Obama is RIGHT THERE to diffuse the attacks and debunk the lies instantly. And maybe mention what's his name... The initials were GGL... Oh yeah! G. Gordon Liddy.

[TooRaLoo]

62. "worried" = ignore thread. nt

[No Elephants]

63. You'll probably be a lot happier if you stop reading stuff that is slanted Pub--unless you like

it that way.

[Jersey Devil]

67. Well, we know McHoover is the best town hall debater of all time

and will probably make Obama look like a schoolboy because he's so good at it, so yeah, I'm worried like crazy.

Obama doesn't have a chance against such a master debater.

[Raschel]

69. Can't wait for the debate!!

McCain doesn't like to do the debates because he wants to hide the biggest negative in his campaign - HIMSELF!!

Every debate is a showcase of how old he is, and how ugly his personality is.
It takes points from him every time.

I hope he attacks, it just brings him down in the polls!

Bwahaha.

[zappaman]

70. ambush?

How is it an ambush if they have already brought it(the ayers B.S.) up?