on cnn's map on tv just now they're showing michigan as a tossup state

[Gato Moteado]

....i thought mcdipshit pulled outta there because he was getting his dumb ass kicked.

the story was showing obama with 250 electoral votes in the blue and leaning blue states. but michigan and wisc were yellow. i thought we had michigan in the bag. and what's up with wisconsin? are the cheeseheads going to vote repuke? didn't kerry win wisc in 2004?

[Occam Bandage]

1. Looks like CNN is more optimistic for McCain than the McCain campaign is.

[Gato Moteado]

4. no kidding!

i couldn't believe it.

[DJ13]

2. They need this for ratings, no matter how stupid they end up looking

[Gato Moteado]

5. and they sure do look stupid

nt

[PeaceNikki]

3. Wisconsin is solid. Don't worry, we "cheeseheads" will deliver

Look at the data.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
http://www.270towin.com/states/Wisconsin

[Gato Moteado]

6. eat cheese or die!!!!!!!.........but first vote for obama......

anyway, i'm glad to hear our cow-milking, cheese-eating, beer-drinking friends to the north are solidly blue.

thanks for your hard work in getting the word out for obama!

[PeaceNikki]

7. I attended an Obama rally on Labor Day in Milwaukee that was the most

inspiring and hopeful event I've ever seen. It was magical.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6872177

[Gato Moteado]

15. great pics!

glad to hear milwaukee is rockin for obama.

[BelleCarolinaPeridot]

22. Its a great feeling.

Glad you had fun!

[Realityhack]

8. Online they have MI light blue and WI yellow. n/t

[Realityhack]

9. Wait.. they have more than one map. The other has both for Obama.

WTF is with the two maps?

2008 'estimate' http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/calculator/
Polling http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/map/polling/

I suspect the 2008 estimate map is not up to date.

[PeaceNikki]

12. The first one you posted is a "calculator"

[Realityhack]

18. Yes but it contains their 'estimate' as one startin point n/t

[Gato Moteado]

13. wow...the second map shows obama within 1 point in indiana....

...and within 3 in NC.

it also shows him winning PA, OH and FL! that map is an electoral landslide for obama. i like it....but i don't know if i'm quite that optimistic yet. i wonder where their polling data is coming from.

[Realityhack]

19. Yeah it looked a bit off to me.

I wish I could be that optimistic.

[Gato Moteado]

10. weird....on tv MI was yellow

it seems like if they really took into account the blue and leaning blue states, obama would have well over 270 on their electoral map. instead it showed 250 and had some blue states as yellow.

[PeaceNikki]

11. Wisconsin is a pipe dream for GOP

http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/2008/wisconsin.html

Strategic Vision
Date: 9/26-28
Wisconsin
Added: 10/1/08

Barack Obama 49%
John McCain 40%
Unsure 9%
Other 2%

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Research 2000 for WISC TV
Date: 9/22-23
Wisconsin
Added: 9/25/08

Barack Obama 49%
John McCain 43%

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American Research Group
Date: 9/18-21
Wisconsin
Added: 9/22/08

Barack Obama 50%
John McCain 45%
Unsure 5%
Other 1%

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[Gato Moteado]

16. polls can change overnight so let's not start celebrating yet.....

we have to keep smashing mccain everytime he tries to get up. these repukes are like the undead.

[Realityhack]

20. Agreed n/t

[Overseas]

14. Republican corporate media don't want to let go of their old boy. //nt

[Stop Cornyn]

17. Obama has only 300 electoral votes if he wins only those states where he is up by 3% or more based

on the average of recent polls, and if you assume McCain wins all the other states (even those states where Obama is consistently ahead in every poll but where the margin of the average of recent polls has Obama up by less than 3%).

source: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=5

[Realityhack]

21. Only? n/t

[GoesTo11]

23. McCain just tossed up Michigan

Ha ha ha ha ha.