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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:09 AM
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Wasilla area Pastor: Palin's lack of economic sophistication "not important, God is our provider"


Oct. 3, 2008 | Sarah Palin appeared transformed in last night's debate. There may be an unearthly reason. If God is listening, he cannot be missing the passion that evangelical voters are investing in her.

Only a few days before her first and only command performance before the voters, we stood with over 100 Pentecostals in Crossroads Church just outside Wasilla, Alaska, and heard the pastor proclaim that Sarah Palin would be the ambassador of God from righteous believers.

"We do know Sarah personally and she knows we pray for her," the Rev. Dennis Hotchkiss told us when we called him hours after the confrontation between the beautiful and bold heroine from the farthest frontier of the country and the seasoned lion of the Senate. That night, pastor Dennis had gathered some of his flock in the church -- not to watch the debate: "We didn't want to be distracted" -- for 90 minutes of intense intercessory prayer, including speaking in tongues. Then he went home to watch the videotaped debate. He was well pleased.

We had spent the crazy week before the debate in Wasilla. While the economy was falling like a mountain into the sea, and Palin was quarantined from what she and the McCain camp believe is the toxic "filter" of the press, we visited three churches close to Palin, talked to half a dozen Pentecostal and evangelical pastors, and watched the Obama-McCain debate with a family of her closest supporters.

"In my heart of hearts, I believe God's favor is on her," Kathy Moffitt told us, as her sister and children brought us sloppy Joes and homemade brownies in the new lakeside home built by her 75-year-old mother, Janet Kincaid. "You're here, you see how common this place is, how rustic. She wasn't schooled to be a politician, to be famous or important, and yet she has gone every step of the way."

The Kincaid family tipped us off to something new afoot in the world, what sounded to us like a new national Jesus movement. Kathy told us to look at how 40 days of prayer and fasting had been organized for Sarah. When we went to the Call Web site, we found the current focus was two initiatives on the California ballot for November, concerning gay marriage and parental consent for abortion. Pastor Dennis explained to us that Sarah's adherents fold prayer for her into that movement. We asked if he thought Roe v. Wade could be overturned in his lifetime.

"I think it's possible," said the 50-year-old cleric. "I believe, with another conservative judge, it could be overturned."

Dennis Hotchkiss and his Crossroads congregation are not a bunch of old stiffs. They gather in a high school auditorium with no religious "icons," to call the spirit of the Lord through Christian rock 'n' roll, a reaching up of arms, waving of flags, spontaneous utterances (speaking in tongues), and a sermon that included cheerleading for "our Sarah" and assurances to one another, "You are righteous." The pastor, a handsome, silver-haired man who preaches in a sport shirt untucked over jeans, was eager to educate us.

We asked him. "If Sarah Palin becomes vice-president, would she be the most committed Christian we've had in that office?" Yes, he said. "She's not politically motivated to the extent most politicians are. It's the positions she's going to stand on. She would want to bring morality to the nation." In the debate, Palin again professed her love for Israel. We asked pastor Dennis if this is related to the Pentecostal belief in Revelations and the end times, when Israel has a chance to be saved before the Rapture. He gave a further interpretation.

"The Bible is pretty clear ... the Lord has said nations will be judged according to how Israel is treated. So a country that is trying to assure Israel a peaceful life is going to be blessed by the Lord." In effect, he said as long as the U.S. protects Israel, we, in turn, will be protected by God.

For those who worry and wonder why religious conservatives aren't concerned about Palin's lack of foreign policy qualifications or economic sophistication, pastor Dennis had the answer:

"When it comes to economic policy, to God it's not that important, because He is our provider," the pastor said in his most reverent voice. "Our trust is in Him, not in economic policy." He emphasized that this is an overriding issue for the evangelical faith community, "because we believe when the country puts its trust in God -- and not in man's systems and man's reasoning -- but makes their decisions more based upon God's word, we're going to find our economy, our nation, being healed."

The most important revelation of the debate was Palin's declaration that she would go beyond Cheney in expanding the powers of the vice-presidency, including a stronger legislative role.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/03/debate_wasilla/index.html
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:11 AM
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1. What a bunch of BS!
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:11 AM
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2. Just ask him..
.. was "god" the mayor who left your town
20m in debt?
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:13 AM
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3. Palin as VP is so damned unacceptable...nt
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:15 AM
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5. and on so many levels....
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:16 AM
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6. I have issues with your graphic
It kind of implies that Obama will leave the American Dream dead and rotting in the middle of the town square and under a hot sun. Probably not the message you mean to give. :hi:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:11 PM
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15. How in the HELL do you get that from my graphic?
It shows McSame and Bush.....where do you see ANYTHING that has to do with BO?
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:40 PM
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16. "Bush killed the American dream. McCain will bury it" What will Obama do with the corpse?
I mean, since the American Dream is already dead.... :shrug:
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-05-08 10:38 AM
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21. Thats a freaking stretch
:puke:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:13 AM
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4. I truly hate her and ALL the rest of those insane motherfuckers
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:16 AM
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7. there was an old Jewish joke
I'll keep it short:

the ultra-Orthodox Jew's daughter is introduced to a young man whom the father then meets as is the custom.

The father says: I have only one question: You are a student in Yeshiva, you come from a very modest background, you say that you're going to go into the study of Torah. My question for you is: How will you support my daughter and your many children should God see fit as to bless you as such?

The young man replies: "God will provide the means!"

Later the Father sees his wife and says, "Well, I met with the young man."

She replies, "How did it go?"

He says, "Well, great I suppose, he already thinks I'm God."
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:26 AM
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10. Funny..I thought of the same joke...
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:30 AM
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12. Bet they've heard THAT one in Brooklyn!!
the way I tell it in my office is usually much longer, and it gets great laughs.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 12:29 PM
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13. Yes. That is the short version..and it very often told around here.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:22 AM
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8. When the economy is bad, the coffers run low and the need becomes great.
Idiot church people.
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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:25 AM
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9. Great, so you won't be needed those federal earmarks anymore.
We can put them to good use elsewhere.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 10:27 AM
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11. That's one place they need to make sure doesn't receive any earmarks!!
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LiberadorHugo Donating Member (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 12:33 PM
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14. Holy smokes!
I think we're moving well beyond Bushleague stupidity and into a level of ignorance and ineptitude that will rival Pol Pot and Idi Amin.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:46 PM
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17. Reminds me of this story/parable
http://wellspringfellowship.wordpress.com/2008/02/07/an-old-joke-or-a-parable-in-disguise/

"A flood is expected to wipe out a small town and evacuation is begun. A jeep is driving through town and comes across a guy standing on his front porch. “Hop in,” they said, “The flood will be coming in any minute.” “Don’t worry about me,” the man replied, “I have faith that God will save me.” Unable to change his mind, they drove on without him.

Soon the flood waters began to roll in, and a rescue team drifted by this man’s house in a boat. “Hop in,” they requested, “We’ll get you out of here.” “Don’t worry about me,” was the man’s reply, “I have faith that God will save me.” Unable to change his mind, the rescue team continued on without him.

Not long after that, the flood waters had completely covered this man’s house, and he was hanging from the chimney. A rescue crew in a helicopter spotted him and dropped him a ladder. The man refused the ladder insisting that God would save him. Unable to change his mind, the helicopter went on without him.

The water continued to rise and the man drowned. On his way through the pearly gates, he met up with God and exclaimed, “You really let me down! I had faith that you would save me and look what happened!” “Well let’s see,” was God’s reply, “I sent you a jeep, a boat and a helicopter.”

"

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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:36 PM
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18. They don't put their faith in Man's systems
So are they refusing to accept their social security checks? Are they walking barefoot across the snow instead of driving cars? Are they out hunting and gathering instead of relying on grocery stores? As far as the economy is concerned, they don't believe in Man's systems but look to God to solve the economic crisis. Isn't the economy itself man-made?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:56 PM
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19. I believe that God is our Provider and will therefore provide an Obama Biden victory. Hallejulah!
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:00 PM
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20. Amen!! n/t
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