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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 11:15 PM
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Roger Ebert on the Debate. An entertaining read.
You didn't ask about the debate, but...
via Roger Ebert's Journal by Roger Ebert on 10/3/08
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2008/10/you_didnt_ask_me_about_the_deb.html

I have some observations about what we observed Thursday night. They are not political. They involve such matters as body language, facial expression and vocal tone. These are legitimate subjects for a film critic. As Patrick Goldstein wrote recently in the Los Angeles Times: "In some ways film critics are probably better equipped to assess the political theater of today's presidential campaigns, since our campaigns are -- as has surely been obvious for some time -- far more about theater and image creation than politics." I would like to discuss the vice presidential debate as theater.

I sensed that Sarah Palin was nervous. Well, she had every right to be, and as I thought about the debate during the day on Thursday, I felt some empathy for her: In university terms, she was being asked to defend her doctoral thesis without having written it. If that had been me facing Joe Biden with the same preparation, I don't know if I could even have walked onto the stage.

So she was understandably nervous, and you could tell that by her rapid speech, faster than what we've heard from her before . Listening to her voice, you could also sense when she felt she'd survived the deep waters of improvisation and was climbing onto the shore of talking points. When she was on familiar ground, she perked up, winked at the audience two or three times, and settled with relief into the folksiness that reminds me strangely of the characters in "Fargo."

Palin is best in that persona. You want to smile with her and wink back. But who did she resemble more? Marge Gunderson, whose peppy pleasantries masked a remorseless policewoman's logic? Or Jerry Lundegaard, who knew he didn't have the car on his lot, but smiled when he said, "M'am, I been cooperatin' with ya here." Palin was persuasive. But I felt a brightness that was not always convincing.

Yes, she wins high marks for emerging from the debate still standing and still smiling. Polls show that she performed better than a great majority of viewers thought she would. My concern here is not with the substance of which either candidate said; that would be political. My concern is with the performances. Watching the debate, I was reminded of an observation by Dr. Samuel Johnson, the great 18th century English critic, about an unrelated subject: "It is not done well, but one is surprised to find it done at all."

One thing a critic of a live performance is sensitive to is any unanticipated moment. There was a famous moment at the National Theater in London when an actor pulled out an automatic pencil to make some notes. It contained no lead. He should have pretended it did. Instead, he said, "There is no lead in my pencil." Then, fatally, he paused to listen to what he had said, and the audience roared with laughter when they were certainly not intended to.

A very different sort of unanticipated moment took place during the debate. Biden said, "I know what it's like to be a single parent raising two children." He did not know if his sons would survive the auto accident that took his wife and daughter. For a moment, he lost his composure. Looking at the moment again, I believe, as I did at the time, that it was genuine emotion, and not stagecraft.

It could not have been anticipated by Palin. The next camera angle was above and behind her. She paused. The silence seemed to anticipate words of sympathy and identification from her. But Biden had ended in a sentence using the word "change," and her response, reflecting no emotion at all, cued off that word and became a talking point about McCain. This felt to me, at worst, insensitive and callous. At best, that she had not fully heard Biden. In either event, her response troubled me. If a man had responded in that way to such a statement from a women, he would be called a heartless brute.

Sometimes during a live performance you can hear an actor "going up." That's actor-speak for forgetting the lines. Laurence Olivier went up on an Oscarcast, after he was awarded an honorary Oscar. Whatever he said (the transcript shows it made no sense), the speech made an enormous impression. In an audience reaction shot, you could lip-read Jon Voight: "Wow." The next morning I went to interview Michael Caine. "Larry called me last night," he said. "He asked what I thought of his speech. I said it was wonderful, but I didn't have the slightest idea what he had said. He said I was exactly right: 'It's like during Shakespeare, when you go up and start blathering about being off to Salisbury on the morn.'"

I sensed that happening during Palin's response to the question about same-sex marriage and civil contracts. She was clear that she opposed same-sex marriage. So was Biden. I have no idea what she said about civil contracts. Neither did Gwen Ifil, apparently, because she concluded that Biden and Palin were in agreement. I knew what McCain (and supposedly Palin) really thought about the subject. I sensed that Palin had gone off to Salisbury.

Jim Emerson discusses the Patrick Goldstein article and related matters in his Scanners blog on this site. Here is the link to the debate moment mentioned above: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/02/biden-gets-choked-up-talk_n_131449.html
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 11:27 PM
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1. Except I didn't want to smile and wink back at her - I wanted to spit at her.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 11:35 PM
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2. I would say that the majority feel the same. Me included.
That picture is HILARIOUS, btw.
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Larry in KC Donating Member (465 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 11:38 PM
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3. The one she SOUNDS most like, though, is Jeannie Lundegaard, Jerry's pitiful wife.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 11:41 PM
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4. lol... good point. And I agree.
I don't like comparing her to Frances McDormand's character because that woman was the hero. Palin is no hero.
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