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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 09:51 PM
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PALIN WRONG: General McKiernan: IRAQ-STYLE SURGE WON'T WORK IN AFGHANISTAN
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 09:55 PM by A-Schwarzenegger
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20081002/news_1n2afghan.html

By Ann Scott Tyson
THE WASHINGTON POST

October 2, 2008

WASHINGTON – The new top U.S. commander in Afghanistan said yesterday that more U.S. troops are urgently required to combat a worsening insurgency, but he stated emphatically that no Iraq-style “surge” of forces will end the conflict there.

“Afghanistan is not Iraq,” said Gen. David McKiernan, who led ground forces during the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 and took over four months ago as head of the NATO-led coalition in Afghanistan.

During a news conference yesterday, McKiernan described Afghanistan as “a far more complex environment than I ever found in Iraq.” The country's mountainous terrain and rural population, its poverty and illiteracy, its 400 major tribal networks and history of civil war all make for unique challenges, he said.

“The word I don't use for Afghanistan is 'surge,' ” McKiernan emphasized, saying that what is required instead is a “sustained commitment” to a counterinsurgency effort that could last many more years and would ultimately require a political, not military, solution.

The strategic differences or similarities between Iraq and Afghanistan have emerged as an issue in the presidential campaign. Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the Republican nominee, and Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois, the Democratic nominee, both have expressed support for sending additional troops, although not necessarily as many as McKiernan has requested.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 09:56 PM
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1. kick for truth
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 09:57 PM
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2. It's going to take a few days to sort out Palin's lies.
Thanks for starting the debunking.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 10:00 PM
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5. The longer people look at what she said, the more lies will emerge.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 09:58 PM
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3. and she got the commander in Afghanistan's name
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mscuedawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 09:59 PM
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4. Kick for TRUTH!!!!
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 10:03 PM
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6. Thanks. There's about 95% static in the posting right now.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 10:32 PM
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7. trying again, think this is important
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 10:33 PM
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8. Let's start with the name...if she cant get that right...
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 10:34 PM
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9. I knew she was full of shit..nt
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 10:36 PM
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10. Thank you! Kick & Rec
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 10:37 PM
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11. kick - Keith talking about it now
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Bubbha Jo Donating Member (846 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 10:38 PM
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12. I found that headline during the debate... it's on KO right now....
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 10:38 PM
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13. Yeas, but what did McClellan say?
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:00 AM
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26. He said he will eventually take Richmond
he just needs more time
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 10:39 PM
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14. How about some rec's on this!!
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 10:46 PM
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15. how about a rec for mcClelland, whoever he is!
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 11:29 PM
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18. General George B. McClellan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_B._McClellan

George Brinton McClellan (December 3, 1826 – October 29, 1885) was a major general during the American Civil War. He organized the famous Army of the Potomac and served briefly (November 1861 to March 1862) as the general-in-chief of the Union Army. Early in the war, McClellan played an important role in raising a well-trained and organized army for the Union. However, although McClellan was meticulous in his planning and preparations, these attributes may have hampered his ability to challenge aggressive opponents in a fast-moving battlefield environment. He chronically overestimated the strength of enemy units and was reluctant to apply principles of mass, frequently leaving large portions of his army unengaged at decisive points.

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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 11:55 PM
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19. !
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 10:54 PM
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16. K & R
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 11:18 PM
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17. thnks
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 12:58 AM
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20. Last kick for the night for a truth that matters big. Got rec?
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dennysp Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:00 AM
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21. Yeah. I read this today. Joe Biden was absolutely
correct. Funny, they must not have had an opportunity to fill her in on today's events!
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:02 AM
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24. Oh wow, I hadnt even noticed that was today!
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:01 AM
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22. And she said "General McClellan"
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:21 AM
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28. Wrong name & utterly wrong on what he said about the surge.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:02 AM
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23. Of course she was wrong
Biden knows his stuff when it comes to foreign policy. Hell the general probably said it to him directly.
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:48 AM
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25. The more the debate is analyzed, the better&better he will become.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:34 AM
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27. K & R
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:57 PM
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29. afternoon delight kick
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:47 PM
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30. K&R. (nt)
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