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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:09 PM
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From Where I sit: McCain Has to run the Table on the 12 Battleground states to win
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 04:15 PM by Perky
I have been watvhing the polls for months, and it ic clear theat there has been a huge break Obama's way in the last few daye.

If you look at the internal numbers it is very clear that Men are abandoning McCain over Palin and the GenderGap amng women is reverting to form.

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There were 11 Battleground states
Ohio (20 Electoral Votes)
Pennsylvania (21 EV)
Michigan (17 EV) (Gone)
Wisconsin (10 EV)
New Hampshire (4 EV)
Virginia (13 EV)
Florida (27 EV)
Missouri (11 EV)
Colorado (9 EV)
New Mexico (5 EV)
Nevada (5 EV)

That list now has to include North Carolina (15 EV)and Indiana (11 EV)

That said, with McCain pulling out of Michigan I have Obama with 269 electoral votes.

That means 12 Battlegrounds left, and McCain has to win every last one of them.







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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:18 PM
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1. Ahem...
That said, with McCain pulling out of Michigan I have Obama with 269 electoral votes.

That means 12 Battlegrounds left, and McCain has to win every last one of them.


...to still almost certainly lose.

269 to 269 goes to a House vote of state delegations. Nate Silver looked at this scenario a while ago:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/05/like-kissing-your-sister.html

It's a bit long, but here's the summary:

If the electoral college ends in a tie and Obama wins the popular vote, I would guess the odds of his eventually becoming president would be upward of 97 percent. If McCain wins the popular vote there is more potential for Democratic defections, but I'd still expect Obama to be selected at least 75 percent of the time.


:)
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:22 PM
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3. TLook atthe probabilty of that happening.
Obama is ahead by 5to 10% in each of those states and McCain is fallingin the polls...except for two, Nevada and New Hampshire. I willconced both of those fo a win in Virginia
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mrJJ Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:33 PM
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4. Must take PA
PA... is the key. Time to get down and dirty... Thats going to be the name of the game. This should morph into a slugfest not a campaign. The Republicans are good at this type of tactic. But everyone knows this would not be easy. Old man McCains 527's will come out swinging. Time to step up to the plate.
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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:19 PM
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2. Unless Bin Laden mysteriously shows up this month, we're guaranteed President Obama
JMO.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:39 PM
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5. That's not right. If we have all the battlegrounds except Michigan going to McCain, Obama has only
Edited on Thu Oct-02-08 04:42 PM by DinoBoy
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:49 PM
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6. I Cheated. I have some BattleGrounds Blue already
CO, NM, WI and PA (He is up by ten in PA)
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:53 PM
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7. Gotcha
Quite frankly, I don't think it's going to be very close. McCain pulling out of Michigan is going to be the first of many, and it reminds me of the GOP pulling out of OH, PA, and MT in 2006.

FWIW, this is what I think the map will look like (plus Omaha's EV, making it 376).

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=1&save=3-3-3-3-1-1-1-1-1-1-3-1-3-1-1-1-3-3-3-1-1-1-1-1-3-1-3-3-1-1-1-1-1-1-3-1-3-1-1-1-3-3-3-3-3-1-1-1-3-1-3
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