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Dr. Death Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:23 PM
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Republican strategist on MSNBC just cited Plessy v. Ferguson
as a landmark case that people support.

Did anyone else just hear this?

I shit you not. He was trying to explain why Palin couldn't name a case that she disagreed with. His reasoning was that people only remember landmark cases that they support, and named Brown v. Board of Education and Plessy v. Ferguson.

Plessy v. Ferguson, of course, is the case that upheld racial segregation and separate but equal doctrine.

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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:26 PM
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1. Don't count on anyone except us picking up on it.
Let me guess--he also agreed with the Dred Scott decision!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:53 PM
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14. Yeah, but he disagrees with Marbury vs. Madison.
;-)
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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:29 PM
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2. It figures that Faux News supports Plessy v Ferguson
1896
Plessy v. Ferguson was the infamous case that asserted that “equal but separate accommodations” for blacks on railroad cars did not violate the “equal protection under the laws” clause of the 14th Amendment. By defending the constitutionality of racial segregation, the Court paved the way for the repressive Jim Crow laws of the South. The lone dissenter on the Court, Justice John Marshall Harlan, protested, “The thin disguise of ‘equal’ accommodations…will not mislead anyone.”
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:32 PM
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3. Somehow I knew this would happen.
I don't know how I knew. But I did.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:34 PM
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4. we need video source of this...
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:46 PM
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10. what was the guy's name?
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nyhuskyfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:35 PM
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5. That's a bogus argument
You know Supreme Court cases that effect the issues you care about. If you are running for one of the top two offices in the land, you would hope that there are certain issues important enough to you that you have studied them in depth. Biden obviously had one that dealt with legislation that he even wrote.

Even if Roe v Wade was the only court case you cared about, you would probably know certain precedents if you studied it in depth enough to aspire to be on a presidential ticket. Maybe you'd go so far as to be against Griswold v Connecticut, but even if you agree with that one, there would be other Supreme Court cases that relate to Roe v Wade that you would use in forming a reasoned argument about it.
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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:57 PM
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15. I would hope that anybody moderately interested in politics
would be familiar with Marbury vs. Madison. In my opinion, if you are not, you are not qualified to serve as an elected OR appointed official with discretionary powers in the United States of America.

In Sarah's defense, apparently neither Bush nor Paulson thinks too much of Marbury v. Madison either.

The second case that everyone should know today is Brown v. Board of Education.

The third, I suppose, would be Roe v. Wade.

And then finally, not because of any important legal principle but because of temporal proximity and press coverage, Gore v. Bush.

I think that people who care probably ought to be familiar with Miranda and Gideon also.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:38 PM
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6. But Brown overruled Plessy
His reasoning was that people only remember landmark cases that they support, and named Brown v. Board of Education and Plessy v. Ferguson.

His statement doesn't make sense.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:41 PM
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9. I would have expected her to bring that one up, if she already knew about Plessy.
She attempted to sweep under the rug all SCOTUS decisions that removed rights from the states.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 07:21 PM
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16. I just thought it was weird for someone to say
they remember rulings they support because, if you support Plessy, you can't support Brown. The ruling under Plessy was "separate but equal" public facilities were constitutional while Brown held that "separate educational facilities are inherently unequal" and therefore were unconstitutional.

Personally I don't believe she knows enough about individual SCOTUS decisions to determine what part of the constitution the cases/rulings were addressing.
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targetpractice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:38 PM
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7. The question to Palin was to cite a case she *disagreed* with.
Are you sure you heard correctly?
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:40 PM
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8. Oh of COURSE Republicans agree with Plessy v Ferguson.
The south is red for a reason.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:47 PM
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11. She opposed the Exxon ruling in June
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Chloroplast Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:50 PM
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12. I apologize if I come off as a snot but a 5th grader could name Plessy v Ferguson.
If you want one of the highest jobs in the land, knowing about Roe v Wade isn't enough. Palin minored in Political Science and should know more than she does.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:51 PM
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13. apparently not in alaska... (sorry, couldnt resist)
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