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Robyn66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:21 PM
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I need to find an anti McCain e-mail to send out
I received an anti Obama bs e-mail this morning which I responded to with info from Obama's anti smear site and I was thinking, I want to find a factual anti Mccain e-mail to send out and I can't find one. Does anyone have any suggestions?
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snacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:44 PM
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1. I'm looking for one too...
would appreciate any help. Thanks.
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snacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:00 PM
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3. Keeping this kicked...
someone must have something! With all of the negative Obama emails out there, there must some negative McCain ones...anyone????
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:51 PM
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2. Write Your Own
There 's plenty of info here on DU for you to cull.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:06 PM
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4. ...
:thumbsup:
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:34 PM
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5. Why not cull from that EXCELLENT Rolling Stone article? or..
George Will's column?

Or this, from a Repug:

Palin Problem
She’s out of her league.

By Kathleen Parker

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE=

Or this:

Republicans Allege McCain Covered Up His Collaboration with the North Vietnamese While a POW
By Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet
Posted on September 21, 2008, Printed on September 23, 2008
http://www.alternet .org/story/ 99663/
A 1992 video featuring a Republican senator, Republican congressman and top Capitol Hill staffers who worked on Vietnam prisoner of war and missing in action issues say John McCain collaborated with North Vietnamese while a POW, and then covered up that involvement to the detriment of POW/MIA families seeking access to classified Pentagon records about their own family members.Watch the VideoThe video raises probing questions about the 2008 Republican presidential nominee's war record, especially after McCain made his captivity a major part of his qualifications for the presidency at the Republican National Convention. In 2004, the GOP focused on Democratic nominee John Kerry's war record to criticize his candidacy.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:36 PM
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6. Here's one idea...
John McCain has been projecting himself as a Vietnam war hero (which he is, but may run into some 527 storms on that issue). That's his brand....his bio.

So as one would assume with such a political identity, you'd think that he would stand with a strong record supporting fellow veterans. Well, just as you'd think he's a "maverick" who has actually embraced the Bush policies for the last 8 years (which makes him not a maverick), his record for helping veterans is actually disappointing and some would say shameful.

To illustrate just how McCain has essentially thrown veterans under the bus in the past years, consider this:

During a March 2005 Senate budget debate, McCain voted to kill an amendment that would have "increase veterans medical care by $2.8 billion in 2006." That amendment lacked an assured funding stream, but lest one mistake this incident for a maverick's stance against budget-busting, there's more. Just a year later McCain voted against an amendment that would have "increase Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes." Two days after it failed, he voted to kill "an assured stream of funding for veterans' health care that take into account the annual changes in the veterans' population and inflation to be paid for by restoring the pre-2001 top rate for income over $1 million, closing corporate tax loopholes and delaying tax cuts for the wealthy." That amendment died quietly, forty-six to fifty-four.

In September 2006 McCain voted to table an amendment to a Defense appropriations bill that would have prevented the department from contracting out support services at Walter Reed. The amendment was indeed tabled--by a vote of fifty to forty-eight, the sort of margin a true veterans' senator might have been able to flip if he really cared about veterans' healthcare.

"John McCain voted against veterans in 2004, '05, '06 and '07," says Jeffrey David Cox, who spent twenty-two years as a VA nurse before moving to the American Federation of Government Employees, where he serves as secretary-treasurer (AFGE represents employees of several federal agencies, including the VA). Cox is right. Under Bush, McCain has voted for measures that target so-called Priority-7 and Priority-8 veterans (those whose injuries are not service-related and whose incomes are above a low minimum threshold) for annual fees, higher co-pays and even suspended enrollment. Priority-7 veterans without dependents earn more than $24,644 annually. Priority-8 veterans without dependents earn an annual minimum of $27,790.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080602/beutler


Barack Obama questioned John McCain's apparent need to fundraise in a California country club over voting for the GI Bill, which passed on May 22, 2008. McCain, known for his outbursts, fired back at Obama with what many considered a cheap shot:

It started with Sen. Barack Obama’s comments on the Senate floor in support of the education benefits that later were approved in a bipartisan vote. He said he couldn’t understand why Sen. John McCain would “line up with the president” against the legislation. “I could not disagree more with him and our president on this issue,” Obama said.

McCain, who did not return to Washington for the vote, called Obama’s remarks “typical” and “offensive” in a statement.

McCain added: “I take a backseat to no one in my affection, respect and devotion to veterans. And I will not accept from Senator Obama, who did not feel it was his responsibility to serve our country in uniform, any lectures on my regard for those who did…If that is how he would behave as president, the country would regret his election.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/05/22/mccain-obama-s... /


McCain appears at odds with veterans being able to attain an education. He thinks that too many soldiers will take advantage of the situation:

"Transferability supports military families, thereby enhancing retention," Defense Secretary Robert Gates said in a letter to Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin, D-Mich., recently.

The Webb bill, Gates suggested, wouldn't encourage retention.

"This is not World War II we're fighting. This is not Vietnam," Graham said. "This is a global struggle with an all-volunteer force. And anything we can do to help retain people, I think, would be great."

But that's the point, Webb argues: This isn't like past wars. He estimates that roughly three of every four Marines and Army personnel leave after a single four-year enlistment — the people, he says, who "answered the call" and should be rewarded.

Webb is at the forefront of a parade that includes not only the Democratic presidential candidates, but also a lot of key members of Congress and veterans' groups. Last month, they rallied in front of the Capitol, where backers wore buttons saying, "Leave No Veteran Behind."

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/36929.html


Obama has gotten the approval from many veterans groups for his support:

Supporters of Webb and Hagel's bill dismiss McCain's concerns about the retention issue. While the Congressional Budget Office estimates that the bill would cause a 16% drop in re-enlistment rates across all four branches of the military, the same study also predicts a 16% uptick in new recruits attracted by the benefit. The bill has 58 co-sponsors, including none other than Obama — just two shy of a veto-proof majority. It was passed last week by the House with a comfortable veto-proof majority, but as an amendment to the emergency war supplemental, it could be altered as the two chambers hammer out differences between the two versions. McCain's office is confident that in the reconciliation process a compromise can be worked out. "We're negotiating in good faith and we think they are as well. We want to do something for veterans. We're really working hard to accomplish our goal," said Mark Buse, McCain's Senate chief of staff.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,180816...


To give full perspective on McCain's dreadful voting record for veterans, look at these ratings:

2006 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 20 percent in 2006.

2006 In 2006 Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America gave Senator McCain a grade of D.

2006 Senator McCain sponsored or co-sponsored 18 percent of the legislation favored by the The Retired Enlisted Association in 2006.

2005 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 25 percent in 2005.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 50 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the The Retired Enlisted Association 0 percent in 2004.

2003 Senator McCain supported the interests of the The American Legion 50 percent in 2003.

2001 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Vietnam Veterans of America 46 percent in 2001.

1999 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 66 percent in 1999.

1997-1998 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Vietnam Veterans of America 0 percent in 1997-1998.

1989-1990 On the votes that the Vietnam Veterans of America considered to be the most important in 1989-1990 , Senator McCain voted their preferred position 50 percent of the time.

http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_...


A war hero perhaps... a supporter of fellow veterans... not so much. Keep this in mind this Memorial Day and Veterans Day. I'm sure he'll be flanked with American flags and veterans... look at his record and not his flag pin.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:48 PM
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8. Kicking the thread for THIS! It's great. n/t
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ceile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:43 PM
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7. Here:
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Robyn66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:16 PM
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9. Thank you! I just sent it out!!!
If you make less than $112,000 a year as an individual (not household income, individual
income) you will pay a lot less in income taxes under Obama's proposed tax
plan than under McCain's</a>. You make up part of the 80% of Americans
in this category. http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidates_taxproposals_tpc/index.htm

If you make between $112,000-$227,000 a year as an individual you will still pay
less taxes under Obama's plan then you do right now http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidates_taxproposals_tpc/index.htm

If you make between $227,000-$603,000 a year as an individual you will pay $12 (twelve
dollars) more per year than you do right now http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/11/news/economy/candidates_taxproposals_tpc/index.htm

If you get your health insurance through your employer John McCain wants to treat
your benefit as taxable income. That will push many Americans into a higher income
bracket meaning you could pay thousands per year more in taxes.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121867201724238901.html

If you think corporations don't pay enough taxes you aren't alone. According
to the non-partisan GAO about 2/3 of US Corporations paid no taxes at some point
between 1998-2005.
http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/12/news/economy/corporate_taxes/

Despite this John McCain wants to cut the corporate tax rate by a whopping 10%
in addition to increased first year write-offs which will ultimately cost us about
1.3 trillion dollars
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-borosage/the-great-corporate-tax-h_b_118479.html

If you think oil companies aren't paying their fair share, you aren't alone.
Exxon Mobil just recorded the highest profit for any corporation in history (again).
http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/31/news/companies/exxon_profits/?postversion=2008073110

Despite this fact John McCain wants to slash their taxes by 10% and not take back
the 14 billion dollars in tax payer subsidies that the Republicans in Congress fought
to give oil companies.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/06/18/america/18oil.php

If you think Republicans are not fiscally responsible you aren't alone. Over
70% of our National Debt was created by just 3 Republican Presidents.
http://www.cedarcomm.com/%7Estevelm1/usdebt.htm

Republican Ronald Reagan borrowed more money than all presidents before him, from
George Washington to Jimmy Carter, combined. Now George Bush may borrow even more
more than Reagan. Democratic president Bill Clinton is the only president in the
last 30 years to not only not create any debt, but to finish with a budget surplus.
http://zfacts.com/p/480.html


If you think lborrowing trillions of dollars from foreign countries to put on a
Giant National Credit Card is a bad idea, you're not alone.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/07/AR2008030702846_pf.htm

We pay hundreds of billions of dollars in interest only payments on our debt each
year, meaning our tax dollars are flushed down the toilet for things that no longer
benefit us, assuming they ever did.
http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/ir/ir_expense.htm

Higher debt means our money is worth less which makes gas, food and just about everything
else more expensive. A conservative estimate is that the US dollar has lost over
27% of it's value since the year 2000.
http://www.coinnews.net/tools/cpi-inflation-calculator/

If you think middle class families do better financially with a Democrat as president,
you aren't alone. According to research out of Princeton, real middle class
wage growth is double when a Democrat is president compared to when a Republican
is president.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/06/13/ST2008061302816.html

If you think focusing on which (current and former) candidates wear a flag pin is
a waste of time that distracts us from real issues, you're not alone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zATOxkWK4E

After all, why should it bother you that John McCain doesn't wear a flag pin?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi5nbZvS9cg


Some people say you can judge someone based on the company they keep. That's
interesting, because John McCain went out of his way to get the endorsement of Reverend
Hagee. Most people have never heard of Hagee, possibly because according to a non-partisan
study, while the media has in fact spent more talking about Obama (than McCain)
most of that time has been spent saying negative things about him.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,2066363,full.story

How else could you explain that fact that so few people know that McCain's Reverend
Hagee referred to the Catholic Church as "the great whore" or that o he
believes and is on tape having said that "Hitler Was Fulfilling God's Will
For Israel?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct4_ze_FjN

And that's in addition to the inflammatory comments he's made regarding
many other groups including women.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/29/john-hagees-mccain-endor_n_89189.html

Also, McCain aids, advisers and fundraisers have made about $1 BILLION DOLLARS
from corporate sponsors. I guess that explains why McCain's policies mostly
benefit the richest and most powerful among us?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7SARo9nrew

Finally, many people believe you can judge a man by how he treats his family, and
adultery is incredibly serious to people (and of course it's the topic of The
7th Commandment.
http://business.gorge.net/zdkf/lawlib/law7.html

Some people are aware that John McCain cheated on his first wife Carol with his
current wife Cindy (who was 18 years younger and quite wealthy), but they aren't
aware that John's wife Carol was in a horrible, disfiguring car accident shortly
before the affair began. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

In light of all of this information you have to ask yourself:
If the facts don't support John McCain, why should you?
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snacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 04:28 PM
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10. Perfect...thank you! n/t
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ilrslr3 Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:53 PM
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11. Idea
Idea:  copy and past the last 2 link from Robyn66; the part
that says the 7th Commandment Thou Shall not Commit Adultery
John McCain make sure you use BOLD font: give the scripture
just for show then copy and paste the article just enough to
get the point across you don't want it to long; you can do the
same for Sarah Palin seeing that she had an affair while she
was married see National Enquirer.

My friend's loved it I forwarded it to them so they could
spread the message about the Adulterer & Adulteress!
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