I'm calling out Chuck Todd

[me b zola]

Twice now I have heard Chuck Todd claim that neither presidential candidate is talking about jobs/job creation. Bullshit.

As far back as the primaries, I was in attendance at the Memorial Coliseum in Portland OR when gov Richardson endorsed Obama. Obama spoke then about job creation as a part of the plan to get us off of ME oil. Then, and every speech that I have heard him make since then, Obama has included in his policy to get off of oil to renewable, green energy the plan to make (at least) 500,000 new good paying jobs in that field. Obama also discusses the jobs that would be created by investing in other aspects of our infrastructure, something that desperately needs attention and resources.

So Chuck Todd, either you are wildly out of touch and have never heard an Obama speech, or you are a liar. You owe your viewers and readers an apology and a correction of the record.

[BumRushDaShow]

1. He is a liar, a shill, and a tool for the RW lunatic fringe. n/t

[polichick]

2. I heard that too this morning - clicked him off yet again. He's worthless now.

[ErinBerin84]

3. Chuck Todd's been an asshole lately.

Polls are only "accurate" to him if McCain is ahead.

[goclark]

4. I heard that too! He just lies like a rug

I am so sick of him and to think I once liked him.

[me b zola]

9. He's got to be lying

Todd follows every nook and cranny of the campaigns. I don't believe for a moment that he hasn't listened to Obama's speeches or he suffers a seizure each time Obama speaks about job creation.

[Moochy]

5. He's a *paid* liar

Part of Tom Brokaw's SURGE strategy at M$NBC.

[me b zola]

10. What a contrast from how we first came to "know" Todd

At first he seemed to be interested in facts, even if his analysis wasn't always on the money. Now he seems to be only interested in the Company line. What a cowardly prick.

[Moochy]

11. As soon as he made his first generic MSNBC Promo he started RW talking points

Right about when he was getting some attention on KO show in the spring, something changed. After that I think his contract changed. The fine print changed, at the very least.

[nc4bo]

13. KO doesn't have him on anymore, thank God. I think I remember he was playing with his map thingy

and thought he was a giant whole ass for doing it and KO didn't exactly look impressed either.

After that, I can't really remember if he's been on Countdown much after that or not.

I'm glad, he was making me :puke:.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

42. Even on C-Span appearances, he had a rw tilt.

[justiceischeap]

6. Why just yesterday in Obama's speech he said we needed to get crackin' on Alt. Energy

So we can create jobs "that can't be shipped overseas."

Bride of Chuckie must not be following the campaign.

[Roxy66]

7. I've heard "Chuckie" state the same thing over and over...

and he is full of shit! Obama talks about job creation in just about every speech!

[a kennedy]

8. Yeah, don't get that.....I used to love his map thingy, now he talks

and I don't listen.

[ProSense]

12. Chuck is full of it. Obama speaks on the issue often, and

compare Obama's Job Creation plan to the nonsense posted on McCain's site.

[me b zola]

19. Thank you for contributing links to the facts

It's just stunning to listen to the crap that most of the pundits spew. Todd knows better.

[krkaufman]

14. You know Chuck probably doesn't read DU, right? n/t

[me b zola]

20. People who write to media outlets do read DU

But thank you for the kick. :hi:

[krkaufman]

59. Which was sort of my point. You've written MSNBC and Todd, yourself, right? n/t

[me b zola]

73. Indeedy I did

...and I'm going to do it again. :) Obama just lead off a rally in PA hitting the jobs issue hard.

[SuperTrouper]

15. I cannot stand that f-ing bloated Toad. He is such a loser, an obvious RW tool

and I believe he is jealous of Obama.

[Hutzpa]

18. He had a black eye once before,

maybe he needs another one on the right this time, so he
can use the left to see clearly....:evilgrin:

[themaguffin]

38. Jesus, calm down people,

[me b zola]

40. Well, that was helpful to the thread

:eyes:

[themaguffin]

47. the THREAD is not helpful. Yeah let's crucify every fucking person for some perceived bullshit.

Yeah that's fucking helpful. Todd is more accurate than most people out there, but he still human.

[me b zola]

50. Grow up

Todd was called out not on some "perceived bullshit" but because he is repeatedly stating a falsehood, other wise know as LYING.

[themaguffin]

52. grow up indeed - that's exactly my point

[me b zola]

54. Because the media's lying should be accepted by the people?

Okay. Your problem isn't so much a matter of maturity (maybe) but probably more a matter of an understanding of democracy.

Excuse the fuck out of me for demanding that people who are sold to us as journalists tell the freaking truth. Some things are black and white. Barack Obama talks about job retention and creation in every speech. To say he does not speak about jobs is an out and out lie. Any person who is sold to us as a journalist needs to be called out when caught repeatedly telling such an outlandish lie.

[Moochy]

61. Hey Look its the maguffin

everyone look at it!

[Virginia Dare]

64. More accurate than most people=perception (yours)...n/t

[Hutzpa]

16. Chucky Tee.... STOP BEING AN ASSHOLE,

you are NOT Joe Scarborough, don't let him influence you, if he can,
then, you must be a weak ass punk.... now, report the facts.

:silly:

[Supersedeas]

17. Full of shit, McTodd -- he and Ms Greenspan have been in full GE mode

[me b zola]

21. Yup, they are getting nervous

They are scared about the people getting a say in their own government because that means that their influence--and $$--will be decreased. I have no tears for them.

[budkin]

22. Heard that this morning and about threw the remote at the TV.

[me b zola]

24. It gets old, doesn't it?

The constant outright lies propagated by media figures who are supposed to be supplying facts.

[Supersedeas]

51. the shills must have received their October payment from the GoP bosses

[LibraLiz1973]

23. I guess Chucky T. only gets his talking points from 10 second blurbs

Because I have heard Obama say PLENTY about job creation.

[me b zola]

28. That's what I'm sayin'

Granted I haven't heard each of Obama's speeches in their entirety, but every one that I have heard he speaks about job creation--and how that ties into getting off of ME oil and addressing the climate crisis.

I'm beyond sick of pundits lying through their teeth to promote their agenda.

[notaboutus]

25. WHY DO YOU WATCH MORNING JOE?

MSNBC could care less about the TRUTH or FACTS. I just want to know. Why democrats keep watching Morning Joe? After the way they covered the Democratic Convention I said forget them.
Then I checked Media Matters and was shocked to see how biased their coverage was. They are just as bad and even worse than FOX at times. Do any of you have any idea how offensive it is to a person of color when MSNBC gets into the "He's not one of us" talking point or the blue collar vote?
Obama is bi-racial not exotic not different.
In my humble opinion they are worse than FOX because I know what FOX is but they are a FOX IN SHEEP CLOTHING!

[me b zola]

31. WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT ME???

Yes, morning joe sucks, it is a rw talking points outlet. But you see, I have this problem; I am a political junky and therefore want(need) to know what is being pushed out there to the less-than-clueful.

[notaboutus]

32. Didn't mean to yell!

It is just that I use to watch for the same reason. They honestly give me high-blood pressure but if their ratings fall then maybe they will become more balanced. The worse McCain does in the polls the worse MSNBC goes negative on Obama. They make money off advertising. The viewership dictates the pay scale for the commercials. It's like helping them make money to be able to lie and do propaganda. This is just my opinion.
Had no intention of yelling at you, I apologize.

[me b zola]

37. No need to apologize, it's all in good humor

I realize cable's ever-watching eye is recording our viewing habits, but damn-it, I want to know the spin of the day. It tells us a lot where the republicans are at in their effort to thwart the will of the people.

[grantcart]

26. IBTL

I didn't even know Todd posted here.

[me b zola]

30. Bwaahaahaaa

:rofl:

[ecstatic]

27. And don't forget his constant rejection of polls that show Obama winning

:eyes: He needs to be confined to cspan again.

[me b zola]

41. Ah, yes. "There is some indication of movement toward Obama"

...as Obama is dominating the polls.

[Virginia Dare]

67. Then if it's a poll where Obama is slamming he says..

it's an outlier...:eyes:

[sunnystarr]

72. better yet when Quinnipiac (sp) poll numbers gave a

wide lead to Obama Chuck said that just can't be right. When McCain was only as few points up after their introduction of Palin, Chuck was gleefully reporting it as a wide margin.

Not hard to figure out the spin he's in.

[Virginia Dare]

65. That's getting old, he needs to be called out on that too..

he never gives any evidence to back up his disbelief, it's just this is the word of the Chuck. Praise be the Chuck!

[Barack_America]

29. Chuck Tool is an idiot. He's only trying to make himself relevant...

Now that the polls no longer need explanation.

Unfortunately, he's lying in order to do it. So much for journalistic integrity.

[GalleryGod]

33. Chuck's got a great future. Sometimes he's a lying sack of shiite.

Like on the jobs issue.

[Cha]

34. Obama spoke passionately about Jobs that will be

created for alternative energy, and infrastruture that I remember..in his speech in Reno on the Economy.

Maybe if chuck todd didn't sit around with his fingers in his ears and actually listened he'd have heard it too.

[Cha]

35. Rec'd! Thanks for doing this.. me b zola..the only

way we're going to do something about it is contact them and let them know they're being served..

[e-mail]

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7256676

This is from last night's Frenchie's Contact Numbers..

[me b zola]

55. Thanks for the links, zidzi

Mr Todd is going to become tired of me, hopefully not before he grows tired of his own conscience.

[Cha]

36. Send the transcript of Obama's speech in Reno including job

creation to chuckie todd.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7257342

[e-mail]

[GrizzlyMan]

39. He said yesterday NOBODY thought Obama won the debate

And oddly enough on a great day for Obama with state by state polling that "you really don't get good state by state polling anymore".

I don't care if his wife worked to get Jim Webb elected, CHuck can go fuck himself. He is a GOP operative. Period.

[mzmolly]

44. I saw that as well.

What a load.

[Cosmocat]

46. he's been assimilated ...

I saw that too, when he said that no one thought anyone won the debate, and I didn't even get the point he was making about state by state polling until you posted.

He has been assimilated. I still think underneath is he is a dem, but it kind of proves how in order to move up the food chain your have to sell out to corporatism (marginalize Ds at the very least, prop Rs when possible).

[mzmolly]

43. Todd seems really worried that Obama is leading. He downplays it

as well. I've heard that he's a Dem though? :shrug:

[ClarkUSA]

45. Headline on TIME's The Page: "Obama Stresses Jobs at Michigan Rally"

Heh. Link: http://thepage.time.com/2008/10/02/obama-to-swing-through-michigan-thursday/

[cui bono]

48. What really pissed me off about him yesterday

was when he said something like it was a trend that Obama's numbers were rising so now it's going to be about if voters feel comfortable with him as president. WTF is that about? That's what the polls are showing already. Then Tweety repeated it. And I swear I got the feeling what they wanted to say was if the country would vote for a black man, but it was like they were trying to remind everyone that he was black. Like okay, maybe he seems better on economics and was better in the debate, but would you really be "comfortable" with him as president. :grr:

[SuperTrouper]

49. Hey Chuckie Toad, have you read this?

:mad:

[bushisanidiot]

53. Chuck Todd is a right wing shill. He should shave his goatee and go to Fox.

:P

[washingdem]

56. Guys, I'm pretty sure Chuck Todd is a Democrat.

[FatDave]

58. Shhhh!

Don't interrupt two minutes hate.

[Moochy]

62. "Two Minutes Hate"

Thanks for coming by and adding your spent wad to the mix.

[FatDave]

77. I know, how fucking dare I suggest that people are overreacting?

Shame on me, especially since you've brought so much thoughtful insight to this thread.

Can we maybe have some master chart of all media figures and their standing within DU from day to day? Because it gets pretty fucking hard to keep up who we love and hate each day in the media, especially when the same figures swing wildly from pole to pole depending on what they say on any given day. Keeping track of how we feel about Chris Matthews alone is practically a full time job.

[Virginia Dare]

68. I'm pretty sure he's a media shill...n/t

[washingdem]

69. Yes, and a Democrat. They aren't mutually exclusive. Let's stop with the hatred.

[Virginia Dare]

70. I don't hate him, but I think most of what he says is bullshit..

maybe because he's a Democrat he tries to skew the other way on camera to appear fair and balanced, I don't know, and frankly I don't care, but most of what he says these days is pure bullshit.

[me b zola]

76. This thread isn't about hating Chuck Todd

This thread is about demanding that people who pose as journalist should be required to tell the truth--and when they don't they need to be called out.

[TheKentuckian]

57. Can you imagine the heat pundits and reporters get

from their corporate masters?

I bet they have to walk a pretty thin line.

[peaches218]

60. Getta Load of This One

This falls under the category of "holy sh*t".

I was just forwarded an email from a far-right acquaintance (that he sent out to many people) in which he claimed that he had written Chuck Todd to complain that NBC/MSNBC cherry-picked their polls and only reported the ones that are to Obama's advantage.

This person claims that Chuck Todd wrote him back, and Chuck agreed with him, telling him that he had been fighting to change that at the station, and that NBC & MSNBC do in fact cherry-pick the daily polling data.

I've emailed Chuck to see if that's true. Stay tuned.

[Virginia Dare]

63. Why does he always sound like he doesn't know what he's talking about?

Tweety is always going on about how brilliant Chuck Todd is, but I swear nothing he says makes sense. He lost me %100 the other day when he wouldn't believe the Virginia poll. He said there was no way Obama is up by 9 percentage points in Virginia, that he'd never believe that, it must be an outlier. Yet he gave no evidence whatsoever to back up that strong belief. I strongly suspect the vast majority of these so-called pundits are going to look very stupid come November 5th. I can't wait to hear the spin.

[Moochy]

66. Because he makes shit up

When ascribing motivation to people's polls, he gets to weave fancy tales of joe sixpack and mary housecoat theater.

[sunnystarr]

71. He claimed that yesterday too

and I sent off an email calling him out on the lie. Then MSNBC covered some of Obama's speech where he was talkinhg about jobs and job creation. We need to INSIST that Chuck Todd recant his statements and tell the truth!

[me b zola]

74. Yes he does need to apologize and correct the record

Truth matters.

[Catherine Vincent]

75. I guess he didn't get enough airtime on CSPAN. nt