Grrrrr. I can't believe Obama. How DARE he..

[FlyingSquirrel]

move to the center in the middle of a friggin' GENERAL ELECTION!

What's he tryin' to do, WIN?

[Awsi Dooger]

1. You spelled it wrong

It's ARRRRR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI2ZZXv_5Kc

[H2O Man]

2. I agree fully.

The only way for Obama to win is to prove that he has not betrayed the Revolution. He needs to wear dark sun glasses, ride a motorcycle, and start shouting The Man down. He needs to become more of a threatening figure. I demand he wear a "Free Willie Horton" t-shirt.

[workinclasszero]

3. While McCain moves ever rightward trying to placate Pills Limbaugh

Hannity and the rest of the fascist hater right!:rofl:

GOBAMA!

[RC]

4. What is so surprising? Obama is not a Liberal. He is another right of center Democratic Centralist

Obama is a Liberal only in the eyes of rightwingnutz.

This country is so far the the right politically that the real center in out of sight over the horizon somewhere. Most of us have no clue where "Center" really is.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

5. How are you defining "centre"? What do you think it's the centre of?

N.T.

[cali]

7. uh, do you realize how Roosevelt ran? That's right, as a centrist.

I actually think, based on his past and his writing, that Obama's more progressive than many think. We'll see.

[THUNDER HANDS]

8. oh please

did you read his books?

the guy is an intelligent liberal, a solid liberal...in fact, he's the best liberal candidate this party has had since FDR.

[renie408]

10. Wait...if the ENTIRE country is to the right, wouldn't the CENTER be to the right, too?

This IS a Democracy. If the entire country is trending right, then the 'center' will trend right also. And it makes sense that the person who would best represent the majority of people would trend a little right. We may not like it, but it makes sense.

[RC]

12. You want Liberals?

Dennis Kucinich, Paul Wellstone(Murdered?), Barney Frank, Barbara Boxer, Edward Kennedy. To name a few.

How does Obama stack up with these Liberals?

This country has been inhaling the fumes from the kool-aid for so long, we think anyone to the left of Mr. Hun is a liberal. Bill Clinton was billed as a liberal also. Actually he is a Southern Democrat, which means he is in reality a centralist Republican.
Hillary Clinton is also billed as a liberal and her views are noticeably to the right of Bill's, as would be fitting of a 'Goldwater Girl'.

Obama is a centralist with some liberal views. His saving grace is I believe Obama is honest, or at least more honest than most politicians.
A real liberal would be talking about putting the perpetrators in prison for the frauds they visited on Wall Street. He would also be for helping the victims of the housing bubble. Obama has said very little to nothing. He voted for bailing out the fat cats on Wall Street.

[amborin]

16. exactly

and a real progressive would not have advocated the bail out

but we need to win, and worry about this later

[kstewart33]

6. Yes, as astonishing as it may be, he's actually trying to win(!) nt

[backscatter712]

9. Some people here need to check their snark detectors.

Yes, Virginia, FlyingSquirrel was being snarky!

How dare Obama work to win the election by being responsive to the electorate!

[LWolf]

11. He's been in the center since he reached the U.S. Senate.

Hence my long-standing criticism, my long-standing disappointment, and my long-standing reservations.

I don't like centrists. Simple.

I don't like McCain even more. I oppose Palin most of all.

What's your point?

Oh. His vote for the bail-out? You know, I never had to hear him speak about the bailout to know that he would vote for it. There's no surprise.

Also no surprise that I stand with those rare 9 Democrats, and 1 independent, who voted "NO."

I didn't jump on DU, or anywhere else, to criticize Obama. He performed as expected, disappointingly. The only reason I mention it at all is that you brought it up.

So what IS your point?

[msallied]

13. No doubt. People who think American politics isn't about appealing to the middle

either are naive as hell or have never studied elections.

[TexasObserver]

14. Yes, I'm opposed to the bailout, but happy with his handling of it.

[GetTheRightVote]

15. I too am disappointed in Obama voting yes for the bailout of Fat Cats

:grr::grr:

[JuniperLea]

19. He's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't...

I'm giving him this one because I want him to win. The whole thing is going to come crashing down by the 3rd quarter of '09 anyway. By then people will realize what a huge mistake this was, and Obama will be in a position to do something about it.

[JuniperLea]

17. Whatever it takes...

He can go back to being the REAL Obama after he's elected!

[crossroads]

18. Yep - a mans gotta do what a mans gotta do - to WIN! nt

[AZ Criminal JD]

20. Once they go center, they never come back

Until they have left office. Witness Carter and Clinton.

[msallied]

21. Not true. Bush appealed to the middle in 2000 with his "compassionate conservatism."

Once elected, he was anything but.