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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:03 AM
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While praising Truman, McCain conveniently ignored a small fact:
Truman was a Democrat. He was the running mate of the man who gave us the New Deal - that Republicans have been working hard, for the past 28 years, to repeal.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:14 AM
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1. But isn't Mccain the Unrepublican republican? Is he still avoiding saying the name Republican?
Nothing this man says surprises me anymore.

He picks up parts of the Dem platform and tries to call it his own? He snatches bits and pieces of Obama's speeches and ideas, he was even changing his campaign signs to match Obama's.

Pathetic little troll of a man.


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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:16 AM
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2. He ignored a whopping larger and scary fact

Truman succeeded to the Presidency because FDR died in office.

Freaked me out totally when Palin mentioned Truman in her convention speech.

This is not a ticket that should mention Truman. Period.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 12:39 AM
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3. Right. It would have been different had Palin been a running mate of
a young, healthy candidate. But with McCain's age and health problems, these are serious considerations.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:08 AM
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4. It wouldn't have been ok, period.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 01:13 AM
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5. also, Truman was a man of integrity
Relevant or not to the greater point of his being a Democrat (and a man who succeeded a president who died in office), I just had to say that... because whatever one may think of certain decisions that were made during his presidency, he never ever ever ran away from responsibility for them.

(Can you tell he's one of my heroes? Flawed, sure, but he's right up there at the top of my list. :))
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:59 AM
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6. A Democrat, one of the best and most decent Presidents ever AND a distant relative of Obama.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:23 PM
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15. Is he, really? I wonder where those "degrees of separation"
between Truman and Obama flow.
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 05:15 AM
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7. This is the whole pretending not to be a Republican that pissed off Tweety
and inspired some of the best Tweety moments, imo.

McCain and the rest of the Republicans have been name dropping like crazy using Democratic names and the few Republican names that still have some credibility to them like Teddy Roosevelt or Abraham Lincoln or Ike Eisenhower. But Tweety was right that they have avoided calling themselves Republicans as if to try to brainwash people into thinking that Bush, the fucking leader of the GOP, is somehow separate from them as Republicans simply because they were only the followers and had no responsibility for pushing the rest of the country down a cliff.

Just fucking retarded. It's been the Democrats who have safely led the country through treacherous times and why the Democrats have such longstanding bias for them amongst voters because there's a rich tradition in the Democratic party of protecting their constituency. The Republicans under McCain have been dishonorable and disingenuous in trying to build a facade of Democrat Lite in order to win so that they can finish the job that they started of destroying America.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:25 PM
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16. Call my cynic but, this, too, is something that he borrowed from Democrats
who have been running away from the term "liberal" choosing "progressive," instead.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 05:34 AM
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8. Funny thing---Truman despised Republicans.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 05:45 AM
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9. Paraphrasing here: "I don't give the Republicans hell....
I tell them the truth, and they think it's hell."
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olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 06:03 AM
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10. I will stop tell the truth about them when they stop telling lies about me.
Isn't this the most accurate thing that you could quote regarding Truman and this campaign of lies by McCain and his troop of fascist jackbooted bastards.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 11:34 AM
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14. Or this one: "Give the people a choice between a Republican and a Republican..
..and they'll vote for the Republican every time!"
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Graybeard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 06:26 AM
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12. Truman publicly called Nixon,"A lying son of a bitch."
And that was many years before Watergate proved him to be absolutely correct.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 06:11 AM
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11. 28 years....
Try 75 years...
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 03:31 PM
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17. You are right, I suppose. There have been Republicans who hated FDR
for the rest of their lives. In the 90s we had neighbors who were in their 70s or 80s then, and the faces that they made when FDR name was mentioned.

But I think it was Reagan that actively was working on dismantling the New Deal, that his administration was very public about it. James Watt comes to mind with his arrogance and smugness.
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MgtPA Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 06:34 AM
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13. "If you want to live like a Republican, vote for a Democrat!" (my favorite line) from John Truman's
(Harry's nephew) speech for Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgGeZ5fQnz8
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