At What Point Is A State NO LONGER A Battleground State?!?!?

[musicblind]

If PA is anywhere NEAR +15 for Obama... wouldn't that disqualify it as a battleground state?

If VA is actually +9 for Obama wouldn't that mean it is no longer a battleground state?

I mean, heck, if those states are battleground states... what is Mississippi (which is only +8 for McCain)

If they are going to claim that a +9 or +15 lead still qualifies as a battleground state... then they should claim that for EVERY state where the candidate is not ahead by greater than a 15 point lead.

geesh.

:wtf:

[Shine]

1. Yeah, seriously.

:eyes: you raise a good question.

[Every Man A King]

2. When its +5 Mccain or +20 Obama nt

[musicblind]

5. LoL. Very true words. The double standard is amazing! n/t

[justiceischeap]

3. Maybe when it's been + something for a certain amount of time?

Obviously, it would have to be higher than the margin of error.

[CK_John]

4. The day after the election. n/t

[Wapsie B]

6. Considering the gop's penchant for voter purging and throw in Diebold too for good measure

I'd say 11/05/08.

[musicblind]

10. Hmm. You may have just made one of the best points of this entire thread n/t

[WA98070]

7. When the losing campaign moves assets elsewhere.

[BlooInBloo]

8. When The Very Serious Old White Men In Suits say so.

[Cha]

12. david gregory?

wolf blitzer? pat buchanan?

[BlooInBloo]

13. The team is much larger than that, but yah. The coach is David Broder.

[NYC_SKP]

17. :

:puke:

[Trajan]

9. Modesty should prevent us from expecting this to remain as it is ...

Im old enough to know better than to consider this matter closed ....

[Secret_Society]

11. The media needs a horse race

[boppers]

14. Battles do not end until the war does.

*Every* state is a battleground state.

A 60/40 state lead is not enough.

A 60/40 national lead is not enough.

This is why the 50-state strategy matters. Until voting closes, every vote, in every state, is the battleground.

[musicblind]

15. "Every vote, in every state, is the battleground."

That gives me chill bumps. (The good kind).

[NYC_SKP]

16. On ELECTION DAY!!!

They're all battleground states, if not for the presidency, then for downticket races and for future elections.

[Awsi Dooger]

18. The margins aren't legitimate

State polls are crap. That's what it boils down to. Or should I say many state polls are crap.

No one can actually believe Obama leads Pennsylvania by 15 or Virginia by 9. It's not as if we are dealing with complete unknown variables, like blueprints of a building that hasn't been completed. These states have known and logical voting tendencies, and they don't equate to anything close to a 5 point national race that equals +15 in Pennsylvania and +9 in Virginia. Pennsylvania figures to be about 3-4 points more Democratic than the national vote, and Virginia maybe 2 points more Republican than the national margin. So do your own estimates from there.

I realize many posters would prefer to cover their eyes and accept the most favorable poll margin in every state. That's what leads to claims of fraud, when that +9 in Virginia becomes the reference point if Obama loses the state by one.