Why didn't anyone make an issue of the guys debating Clinton?

[Drunken Irishman]

Or was it? I don't remember many in the media saying much during the primaries about all these men debating a woman.

Even when it was between Obama & Clinton, no one really ever questioned whether Obama had to change his strategy when debating her.

So why all this with Palin?

[LiberalAndProud]

1. I think it has to do with shooting an unarmed victim.

Clinton was smart, witty and informed. Palin ... not so much.

[PBS Poll-435]

3. Bravo!

You conveyed my thoughts before I had even thought them.

:D

[BlooInBloo]

2. Whoa. All I remember hearing about from Clinton supporters was how sexist Obama was...

It was all a pack of lies, naturally.

[PBS Poll-435]

4. You're likeable enough, Hillary.

:shrug:

[MadBadger]

8. He was being a little too courteous to her there.

[PBS Poll-435]

9. I am not going to debate the primaries with you

Nope.

Everything is working out well for us.

I will not be divisive and I will not bring up Hillary Clinton as fodder.

[MadBadger]

10. Good idea.

[rebel with a cause]

12. That is sarcastic humor.

Not an isult as you all took it. It is something that someone here in Illinois would say to someone they knew as a joke, knowing that they would understand the joke. I have said things like that to people and they to me, usually followed by the person it is said to giving a playful smack on the shoulder/arm to the speaker. :eyes:

[PBS Poll-435]

13. Hmm..... Nah

We are going to win this election. Big time.

And I am not going to participate in any "Clinton-hating" shit.

Give it up. It is over.

[rebel with a cause]

15. Sorry, but I don't hate Clinton.

and that was not Clinton hating shit. Geeeesh. Anything in Barack's favor is not against Hillary.

But I am over it, because I was never on here in it.

[PBS Poll-435]

16. Fantastic!

I am tired of the Clinton-hate that exists here at DU.

And it exists, for profit, I assume.

[rebel with a cause]

20. Just like much of the Obama bashing is done

for cash. I am tired of all of this that exists here also.

[PBS Poll-435]

22. I will make this very simple. Any troll-like criticism of elected Democrats needs to end.

That is all.

[rebel with a cause]

24. I will agree with you on that.

:toast:

[moriah]

21. As a Hillary supporter...I actually wasn't entirely offended by that...

Admittedly, if he meant to say "You're plenty likeable" he could have said exactly that.

But I took it in the spirit I thought he meant it in -- the same spirit where he said "That's a tough one" when McCain stumbled over the Iranian name (which I won't even attempt to spell without Google).

[democrattotheend]

26. That was kind of rude, but I don't think it was sexist per say

[pnwmom]

5. I don't think Obama was. But many of his supporters were,

especially around here.

[firedupdem]

6. Hillary is strong and knowledgeable...but still I get what you

mean. All this advice about how to treat this nut case. Whatever!

[cags]

7. Cause Hillary has bigger balls than Palin ever could. Hillary fit right in...Pasty face no so much

[rebel with a cause]

14. Also because Hillary is a Democrat and we tend to accept

women as equals. Republicans not so much. They have a women on the ticket, but she is the trophy VP. Looks good on mccain's arm but doesn't have too much upstairs to get in the way of the men folk. ;)

[TheKentuckian]

11. No one should be required to to treat anyone that kills for pleasure

with kidd gloves. Its totally disconnected. Not to mention the constant flow of lies.

Fuck her with a rusty pipeline, I sez. I think it would be great to see her made to cry like a baby and throw a tantrum.

[FrenchieCat]

17. Because Palin is taking back women's rights about

40 years back....if not more. That's why.

[ginnyinWI]

18. Because the RWers will throw a hissy fit maybe.

And cry "victim" and put up hateful ads. Would that really change anyone's mind though?

I don't think it even worked for Hillary when she tried to play the victim of the media.

[TexasObserver]

19. Hillary must wake up wondering if she's living some kind of Faustian Hell.

I don't know how she can watch Palin out there without thinking "God, why are you fucking with me?!"

[moriah]

25. No shit.

I loved Amy's parody -- "No, mine!"

And as a Hillary supporter, if I hadn't already been committed to supporting Obama because I was going to support the Dem nominee no matter what, her DARING to compare being chosen by one man as a Veep to being chosen by nearly 18 million men and women to be Prez, and suggesting she had the better end of the comparison....

That steamed me so badly I nearly snapped at the soul in the Chick-fil-a drive-thru who was taking my order immediately after I heard her speech on Potus 08 while on my way to work. He was just a bit slow, and fortunately I realized my sudden anger was not at him.

true feminists know
sarah palin you are no
hillary clinton

[TexasObserver]

28. I just wish Palin would acknowledge proudly her real religious beliefs.

I want to hear her say what she and her church believe about how most humans are going to burn in hell for eternity, including all homosexuals, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, Hindu, etc. I want to hear her talk about The Rapture, and her belief that Jesus is coming back and Israel has to own the Gaza for that to happen.

[moriah]

23. Some did, but more in discussing Lazio debating her.

Additionally... Hillary comes across as a strong woman, not a fragile flower.

Most of the sexist stereotypes about Palin are on the total opposite end of the spectrum from those about Hillary. Hillary had the Nutcracker, Palin has Caribou Barbie.

[BadDog40]

27. Because Hillary is intelligent, Palin is not

[No Elephants]

29. simple. Those debates involved smart Dem men debating a smart Dem woman.

[eshfemme]

30. That's why there's such a stupid fucking double standard

Somehow Hillary can be allowed to speak her own mind and be her own woman but Sarah Palin who is being touted as the GOP's answer to Hillary can't do anything like Hillary does yet can't face the same criticism that Hillary got.

Yeah, that's why I think the GOP encourages misogyny, chauvinism and racism. They have clear trends towards those types of attitudes.