Jefferson never said:"never underestimate the wisdom of the people" Ms Palin

[Ichingcarpenter]

When you talked to today on CBS news






He did say this however:


"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power,
and teach us, that the less we use our power the greater it will be."


Do a search on it folks, I thought it sounded weird when she said it
being an admirer and student of Jefferson's work.



This was a bullshit response Gov. Palin.

[Zomby Woof]

1. This amateur Jefferson scholar thanks you

He'd crap his stockings if he lived to see the likes of Palin come to power.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. I'm surprised a right-wing wackjob like Palin would quote Jefferson,

even if incorrectly. The wingers *hate* Jefferson -- he was a proto-liberal.

[TankLV]

6. not to mention - wasn't he a founder of the DemocraTIC Party?

emphasis mine - I'm sick and tired of the lack of use of the proper term...

[Zomby Woof]

10. More of our party's direct ancestor

Jefferson was the first president from the Democratic-Republican Party - called "Republicans" in the shorthand of the day, ironically. Within a generation of Jefferson's departure from the White House, the party endured more name changes and turmoil, and eventually, Andrew Jackson convened the modern Democratic Party for the first ever nominating convention in 1824. Old Hickory is often deemed the developer or inventor of the party convention, when it actually did the dirty work of choosing the nominee.

[Zomby Woof]

8. Some wingnuts embrace him

In Alf Mapp's "Thomas Jefferson: A Strange Case of Mistaken Identity", he has a part devoted to how people on both sides of the spectrum can interpret him to fit their pre-conceived mold. Since conservatives profess to be about smaller government, and Jefferson championed (although did not always practice) limited government, he is often embraced as one of their own.

Add to that he abolished the then-equivalent of the IRS during his first term as president, and ended nearly every tax except the tariff, and it adds to their conceit.

But then you could take him back for liberals by virtue of the Declaration of Independence, the Statute of Religious Freedom in Virginia, and as governor of VA, his vast reform of inheritance laws with property, often divvying up large tracts of land so that the male heirs would not always get the entire spoils of their birth. That did not endear him to the aristocrats, who saw him as something of a traitor a la FDR.

However, he was a genius of enormous self-contradictions and complexity, and it's easy to see where Mapp derived his thesis.

[clydefrand]

3. She certainly knows how to abuse her power. She needs to use

hers less.

[firedupdem]

4. nothing she says makes any sense. She just spouts off bullshit n/t

[Lint Head]

5. Typical Re-Pubic-Rat making shit up.

:dem:

[Atman]

7. "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."

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[Metta]

9. H.L. Menken said "No one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the American people."

... in so many words, if I remember correctly. Anyone know for sure?

[Disturbed]

11. I have a hard time believing that she made this up.

She was fed this stupid line by the McLiar Cabal.

[REP]

14. "No one ever lost money underestimating the taste of the American public"

Also reported as "no one ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American public." The first one is from the Smart Set; both are Mencken.

[Metta]

16. Thanks, Rep.

I knew one of us would know it. :toast:

[NoPasaran]

12. Sounds like something you'd get from a fortune cookie

Mooselini's been working on her foreign policy credentials by eating Chinese takeout?

[Toucano]

13. Jefferson also said

"I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded upon fables and mythologies" (Letter to Dr. Woods).

and

"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one-half the world fools and the other half hypocrites."

[doc03]

15. I said "The arrogance and stupidity of a Republican

knows no bounds."