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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 11:49 PM Original message |
The Republican Party is Disintegrating |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. A quote from 1994 |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. That's an awesome quote! |
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endthewar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
30. Bwahahahaha! |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
62. +1 |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. There are government programs to make loans to small businesses. |
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PaddyBlueEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. and in the mean time? |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. We can't fix the cause of this problem until we can steady the people most affected by it. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. This is completely ridiculous |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Also, with all of that wealth disappearing, it means less revenue for the government. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Yes every state, county, city and school district will now face dramatically |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. So you pay those taxes how? Most of ours come from property and sales tax, they aren't going down. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Are you kidding of course they are going down |
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Better Today (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Uhm, I've never seen, even during other home price depressions, |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I've owned homes since 1980 |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
70. It's happening here in Northern Virginia.. |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
74. Sure, in states like California |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #28 |
65. In California |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #65 |
96. you are correct that it does not go down or up |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. When the stock market goes down, the money doesn't evaporate. |
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abumbyanyothername (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #27 |
37. People are not using Money Market Accounts anymore |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #27 |
40. you need to take a course in economics |
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sfwriter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. OK,, Brilliant... EOM |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
50. thank you |
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elfin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-29-08 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. May they jettison the radical Fundies once and for all |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. It's the Dems for now. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. their radical fundies are their ground army |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. They can go back into hiding like they were before the 2000 election. |
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hogwyld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
51. Not me |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:59 AM Response to Reply #19 |
54. I don't want to see any more Republicans, period! |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #19 |
58. The "rational" wing of the GOP is the greedy wing. At least the fundies try to be ethical. (nt) |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. Is that why they lied and said that the reason why they voted "no" |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. That is the Republican leadership which is the "greedy" wing and puts on an act for the fundies.(nt) |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Now we're defending right wing fundies WTF????...n/t |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Right wing fundies are naive and easily manipulated. Their ethics are whacked and unworkable but at |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
6. Perhaps now small business owners will stop voting against their own economic interests. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #6 |
17. I wish we had a couple of leaders who could articulate what you are saying |
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spag68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
20. Lost repubs |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:01 AM Response to Original message |
7. I give to you a standing ovation, Grantcart. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. No they might not be able to rebuild because instead of nominating a Goldwater type |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Yes, and it by and large excludes the philosophy of religious fundamentalists. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. but this time we got the man who has the strength of FDR and the charisma of JFK |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Even if I only get a sliver of what each of those generations felt about those respective leaders |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
94. agreed |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
11. K&R need 1 more r |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
47. thanks |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
12. The Republican Party Has Been On A Road To Nowhere For A Very Long Time |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #12 |
52. thanks for the links |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
77. i guess i'll have to go watch 'em all |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
25. This is a Rovian trap! |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. that's what they said in 64 right up to November 4th lol |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
29. I think they welcome their destruction at this point. They don't want to |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
82. the religious right would be happy to have a big defeat if it left them in total |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
32. Do you think there will be a rise in the Independent party...? Minus Lieberman. |
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lostnotforgotten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. We Have To Start Over Somewhere - Independent Suits Me Fine |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Great ness..when do we start? I'd love to start a strong new party that doesn't pander... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
33. Quite an encouraging thought that a national political party |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #33 |
55. tks |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
34. Thank You! You always make it easy to understand. I hope people |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. thank you for your kind reply |
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Liberal Dose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:58 AM Response to Original message |
41. The only thing these overlapping groups have left to hold themselves together is their hatred of us. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #41 |
56. And the genius of Obama is he never takes the bait making those who push it seem even more crazy |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #41 |
99. I've noticed that too--the ONLY unifying factor on the right |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
42. Superb GC... Simply Superb !!! |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #42 |
57. tks |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:14 AM Response to Original message |
43. K & R |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
79. tks IWantAnyDem |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:29 AM Response to Original message |
44. Excellent post. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
88. tks Berni |
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seasat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
45. Bush spilt the kersosene and they just tossed a match |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:17 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. good analogy |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
48. "Today the House Republicans turned their back on the little guy." |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #48 |
63. well maybe the fact that we call them dumbasses slows down their coming over here lol |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:48 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. oh please.. they are dumbasses |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
49. "a stinking corpse" ... an appropriate metaphor for the Republican Party. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
68. tks invictus |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
53. K & R - great post! |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #53 |
78. thanks Raksha |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
59. Excellent analysis, great post |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. tks Canuckistanian |
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chicagoexpat (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
60. & a lot of DU'ers wish this were happening to the DEMOCRATS |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
81. thanks chicagoexpat |
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nam78_two (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
61. From your keyboard to...etc. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:28 PM Response to Reply #61 |
97. yeah wish i could - would stop off at the lottery website first. |
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SidneyCarton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
66. I always enjoy your analysis grantcart, you put things into perspective. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. tks Sidney |
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barbtries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
69. good essay. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. me too barbtries |
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Batgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
72. thoughtful, and thought-provoking essay |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
83. Just keep on believing that the Republican party is disintegrating. You'll find out it's like a |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. sounds like they could get their own HBO series |
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lelgt60 (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
85. Small business owners vote Republican because... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. thanks for your reply and 1-4 are correct |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
89. the implosion of the republican party started in illinois |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. it will be Bush's lasting legacy that he left his party so divided |
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Shine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
90. Excellent analysis, grantcart. K & R |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. thanks shine |
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frickaline (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
91. k&r, always a pleasure to read your posts |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. tks frickaline |
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Ah Xoc Kin (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
98. or Republicans are positioning themselves for the future |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-30-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. tks for your reply |
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