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Every Man A King Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:54 PM
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To all the Morons saying sell your stocks
Its actually probably a good time to buy. There will be an agreement. The market goes up when sellers become buyers... not the other way around.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:55 PM
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1. buy what?
it's as much a lottery as ever.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:58 PM
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4. Only if you buy for speculation
Stick with stocks in solid companies that pay dividends.
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iiibbb Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:10 PM
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17. Buy indexed stuff.
... follows the market.

Get it when you think the bottom has been reached.

It is a gamble, but the market isn't going to go to 0 and it isn't going down and stay down forever.
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cdb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:58 PM
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2. DING! DING! We have a winner!
It makes no sense to liquidate at the bottom- or near bottom of the market.
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pegleg Donating Member (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:59 PM
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11. Actually it all depends on how much you can afford to lose.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:58 PM
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3. I'd hold stocks right now...keep cash in cash for a while longer.
I don't think we're anywhere near the bottom yet, but the next week or two will tell us more.
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:59 PM
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12. Yes, my 401k and IRAs are in for the long-term. (and I'm 34) nt
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Sodan Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:00 PM
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13. No where near the bottom..
I expect a big crash. Don't know when - it's just gonna happen.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:06 PM
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14. No crash, just a correction.
I think the bottom is somewhere between 9000 and 9500, but I could be wrong. If it drops below 10k, I'll probably start buying again in slowly.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:31 PM
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25. I see the bottom somewhere
around 6500 - 7000. No data to back that up, but just a personal feeling.
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leftist. Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:08 PM
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16. I'm feeling my way through this - why wouldn't you personally put a little in at this point?
Thanks!
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:58 PM
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5. right on......
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:59 PM
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6. I think it's a good time to hold. I'm not convinced we've bottomed out, nor am I convinced
that we're due to drop further.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:59 PM
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7. I was thinking about buying
I own three stocks (Apple, Google and RIMM) that I could have sold 6 months ago for a nice profit but are now in the hole. I am thinking about buying more at a lower price now. Is that crazy?
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siligut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:05 PM
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35. Not crazy at all. That is considered a strategy. nt
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:59 PM
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8. my major stock is down 22% right now, like i'm gonna sell, no. Riding it out and going long.
do i want to buy some more now that it's down by so much, maybe.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:59 PM
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9. Great! How much can I get for $3.27?
:shrug:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:28 PM
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24. *snickersnort* I have an extra five bucks layin on the coffee table !
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:44 PM
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29. heh. Thanks for reminding me.
I think I've got some change in the sofa! :bounce: I'm gonna be riiichhh!
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:38 PM
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27. you can buy 1 share of woolldog, inc.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:42 PM
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28. lol! You're not going to tank on me are you?
:hi:
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:45 PM
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30. What's your debt ratio?
I need to make some good investments now, need to do my homework.
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jakem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 06:13 AM
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42. You can invest in a nice Latte!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:59 PM
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10. You're assuming we've hit bottom and that there will
be an agreement.

Mighty big assumptions.
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maseman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:06 PM
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15. Remember this
Buy the big DOW stocks when the market is down. Coke, McDonalds, Pharmaceuticals, energy, etc. The staples of our lives.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:11 PM
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18. Wrong, moving money in or out of the market right now is crazy.
You are gambling either way. You might get lucky or you may loose your ass. You can also loose your ass by not acting, but it is a safer bet.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:14 PM
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19. yup! i 100% agree
just make sure you do your research before buying.. look for long term investments that you know people will need regardless of what shape the country is in...


im with you, people yelling to jump ship are only making the crisis happen faster ... instead , like in any potential crisis situation, you should remain calm... think about what course of action you are going to take... LOGICALLY ... and then act on it...

this OMG WERE ALL GONNA DIE crap aint gonna help anybody.

just remember the old saying,

buy low, sell high!
hah
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:15 PM
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20. If you're within 10 years of retirement, sure cash out
you shouldn't have been heavily invested in the market to begin with. But under 50? Keep your 401K investments as is. You're actually going to get some great bargains as prices fall. I seriously doubt that our entire economic system will fail although it's going to get damned ugly, damned fast if this bill isn't passed. But we'll look back 10 years from now and be glad we stayed in. Those who cashed out (unless they're dependent upon that $$$ now) won't be able to stay that.
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protect our future Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:21 PM
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21. I bought stock last week, and my investment has doubled.
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 02:25 PM by protect our future
Fannie Mae. Actually it tripled before it went down to just doubling. I'm staying with it to see where it'll go when the market settles down.

There are some very good buys out there if you don't mind the risk.

I have 180 shares of Fannie at 69 cents per share. I don't mind risking a hundred or so bucks to get a possible big payoff.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:27 PM
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22. ALL Investments are a gamble to some degree
...so many people forget that.
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protect our future Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:35 PM
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26. Yes, they are a gamble. But here's how I see it:
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 02:58 PM by protect our future
You've got a 50/50 chance of making some money.

What are the odds of winning the lottery for people who keep buying lottery tickets? What are the odds of winning if you vacation in Vegas?

Stocks give you a much better chance.

Most of my portfolio is sucking right now and it looks like it'll take quite a while for it to come back. .... sigh .... but eventually it will come back.

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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:02 PM
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33. I have a mixed portfolio
...mostly securities and bonds, some stock. I haven't been paying into my 401K for a couple years, given market volatility. Debt reduction has saved me more interest dollars than I would have made in the market.

I am leaving my plan intact, since I have another 20 years until retirement.
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:28 PM
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23. would have to have a gun to my head to sell right now.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:47 PM
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31. Great time to buy indeed!
It sucks about my current portfolio. :-(

But it is a great time to buy and forget about all the long term stuff.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:49 PM
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32. I'm upping my 401k contributions.
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:04 PM
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34. Oh you are right. My brother has a degree in business and Me, my Mom, and my Dad are all buying
today instead of selling.
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:06 PM
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37. I'm alocatting a small amount for buying indexed
That's the safest play right now. Beyond that is very risky - I'm not sure we've seen the bottom yet so I'm staying away for the time being.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:05 PM
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36. hmm.... what's affordable and potentially profitable? nt
Edited on Mon Sep-29-08 03:06 PM by Truth Hurts A Lot
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:23 PM
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38. Don't try to pick stocks
And don't buy expensive actively-managed mutual funds, where you effectively throw away 1-2% of your return every year in return for (usually) submarket returns.

If you are just starting out in stocks, and looking to invest for the long term, go to Vanguard.com and buy the S&P 500 index fund- broad exposure to the US stock market, and the expense ratio (fee) is only 0.15% per year. Now could be an excellent time to buy, but only do this if you are in for the long term (at least 7 years or so) and if you will not panic if your holding goes down in value by 20% or so.
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protect our future Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:26 AM
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40. Vanguard is excellent, and I believe they pioneered index funds.
But for those who can handle risk in exchange for a big reward, I'd choose Janus. When the market tanks, Janus tanks worse; but when the market goes up, many Janus funds fly higher than funds of other companies.

If only I had enough cash to invest in a Janus fund right now ... sigh ....
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 03:48 PM
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39. I'm 24 years old. I'm keeping my money in the market
I may even buy more stock tomorrow to lower my cost basis. I'm a little skittish but I think it's the right move...this may be a dumb line of thought, but I also feel like it's the right thing to do for the country for those of us who are younger and don't need the money way to stay in or buy more stock...maybe I am crazy though. I don't really know much about it. I'm going to watch Jim Cramer tonight and see what he says.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 05:55 AM
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41. I don't agree
Anyone who may need to access that money in the next year or so should sell some, just in case the bottom really falls out (and let's not forget that even those who favor the bailout are not sure if it will solve or delay the problem). People who won't need to touch the money for 10 years or more should probably leave it where it is.
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