How bad off is your party when Palin was your "rising star"?

[leftist.]

That party is in a monumental state of denial. I heard Bill "abort black babies" Bennett this morning say he thought McCain won the debate even though "some polls" (his words) claim Obama won. Over the weekend I heard a repeat of Dennis Prager talking about how the Democrats are in meltdown because Palin is doing so well for the Republicans.

They fought McCain's nomination and are now having to prop him up (or as Rush put it, carry his water) given that he won. They embraced Palin as a re-energizer of the party ("guns, babies, and jesus") and now have to defend her pathetic interviews and refusal to answer questions as well as suggestions from all sides now that perhaps she should step down.

We are winning big in November and I think that's undeniable at this point, and if we don't mess this up we stand to be in power for a very long time.

[babylonsister]

1. Excellent point! nt

[AndyA]

2. Everything in the Republican Party is falling down around them.

The economy is shot.

The deficit is through the roof.

Government is bigger than ever.

We're fighting a war based on lies, that has killed thousands of our brave troops.

People are figuring out that they can't have tax cuts forever when the deficit is growing and the economy is tanking.

The GOP has been caught in lie after lie after lie, from Bush all the way down to the bottom.

They have a nit wit VP candidate, who on her best day is a joke.

They have an aging man with a history of cancer running for President, who has demonstrated now that he has serious issues with his temperament, and has ties to lobbyists and others who are involved in the financial market crash.

McSame is out of touch with the American people. You can't be married to an heiress, own 7 homes, 13 cars, have full staffs in each home, and live the life of the Carrington's without being out of touch.

There is NO REASON to vote for Republicans this year. Their loyal, non-thinking, idiot, bigoted, thumb-sucking base will...but that's all they've got.

[TNMOM]

3. Bill Bennet is a moron.

[Kerrytravelers]

4. If Sarah "Head of Putin" Palin is your saving grace, you might as well dig your grave & jump in now.

You are correct. If Obama is half the man I think he is, the next several elections will be easy for the Democrats.

[leftist.]

9. I couldn't agree more.

Furthermore, I think he'll only get better once he's in office and starts to get a feel for things, as Bill Clinton has pointed out. And as AndyA noted in another post in this thread, the Republicans will have to put in overtime to do worse job than they've done over the last 14 years. Cheney, Bush, and Rove - as much as I sincerely loathe those three douchebags - and for as much damage as they've caused while in power (damage I know we'll be able to fix once we get in there), they have really set us up quite nicely for the next few decades if, again, we don't blow it; and at this point I have no reason to believe we will given leaders like Dean and Obama as well as our own rising stars like Webb, Sebelius, McCaskil, Rick Hendrix, and many others.

[StClone]

5. Can't tell a shooting star from rising one.

Republicans want someone as dumb as they are and Dems like to think their leaders should be a little smarter themselves.

[Starlight]

6. Ever since they chose Palin, I've been waiting for the punch line.

No one in their right mind could possibly think that dingbat would be an appropriate choice for vice president. So it must be some sort of bizarre joke. Right? But why would they play a practical joke on themselves?? :wtf:

[leftist.]

11. Here's a guess.

They saw how successful Ron Paul was at trolling a majour political party and wanted to try and top it? I'm joking of course, but really, Senator McCain, where IS the punchline??? To be fair, I thought her selection would have an immediate negative impact and it did not - it took a few weeks for the paint to really start peeling away - but it was such a poorly made last minute decision and joins the myriad of mistakes that is destroying that poor guy's campaign.

[riverwalker]

7. all the facades are melting

Seems like every Republican they parade on t.v. is a angry, ignorant freak.
Then the Democrats come on and they are calm, reasonable, thoughtful, polite.
Lately the contrast seems more amplified and obvious.

[leftist.]

10. I've noticed that on talk radio and cable news as well.

I've noticed it in tandem with the denial that the McCain ticket is in a free-fall. It seems (at least to me) to have been amped up over the last, I guess three to four months and especially over the last two weeks where you have Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh repeatedly insisting to their listeners that the McCain/Palin ticket isn't down in the polls and that the "Democrat Party" is panicked and running scared when it's actually quite easy to check for yourself and see that they are incorrect. Another example - Rasmussen I've noticed is having a difficult time as of late in interviews trying to buoy McCain's diminished results in his polls. And didn't I read on DU just a few days ago that Zogby (I don't know where he stands politically) just gave a speech saying that this might be a landslide for McCain?

[Iterate]

8. After 2004 they were claiming the basis for a permanent majority,

but they've chased off most of the moderates and made others shift right. You can count the national-level Republican moderates on one hand.

Iowa is a good example where Republicans ruled in most of the state since they really were the party of Lincoln, mainly with a core of "good government" Republicans, somewhat conservative but still rational. Sen. Chuck Grassley is one of the last of those remaining and even with his seniority he's shifted right over the years. So now when one is elected, it's a nutcase like Steve King(IA 5th) and the overall shift in the elections for the last 40 years has been to the liberal/moderate "good government" Democrats.

It was an unholy alliance from the beginning. Rich and corrupt in league with nutcase zealots.

[leftist.]

12. Good points, and 2002 was downright frightening!

Iowa is a great example, thanks for bringing it up.

[chiefofclarinet]

13. Please, don't remind me of my congressnutjob

Good God, I hate Steve King. He's an embarrassment to Iowa, and 5th district especially.

But, you do make a good point. We kicked out two long time Republican representatives with two freshman Democrats in Eastern Iowa in 2006. We might be able to kick out the last two this year, though I'm not getting my hopes up.