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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:01 PM
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New McCain ad is so racist I feel like I'm hallucinating
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 11:25 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
Watching AMC and a McCain ad comes on talking about McCain heroic leadership on the bail-out, and how Obama wants to give away everybody's money to greedy wall-street CEOs.

The picture used in the ad to illustrate a greedy fat cat is a smirking/smiling black man. (ON EDIT: I am correctly informed it's Mr. Raines.)

Obviously there are plenty of black businessmen, but no one on Earth would illustrate the concept 'corporate fat-cat' with a black man (in the symbolic visual language of advertising.)

ON EDIT: And (now that I know it's Raines) it's just one more attrocity on which no one can be called in a politically useful way. C'est la vie.

(By which I mean there would be no upside to the ad being a campaign controversy... in that sense it's almost a 'dare' ad. "Here's what we would like to talk about... will you play along?")

The ad was this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s18LfIDpaIs
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:05 PM
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1. They are lying. That is what they do...That is what they have done for as long as I can remember.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:06 PM
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2. you're kidding -- a grinning black man. nt
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:14 PM
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16. I have edited to smirking... that's more accurate
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:31 AM
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40. A smirking Black man followed by a white haired woman.
They have got to do something to protect the virtue of the white womem from the evil Black man. I wish I could teach a race class to this country in the next two weeks so they would understand the racist messages that being sent out. Then I would like someone to teach them how to see that these SOBs lie every time they open their mouths. I don't want to hate, but it is getting harder every day and the list of people ticking me off is getting longer. :nuke:
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SDJay Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:08 PM
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3. Saw it.
I've also been trying to be careful to not be overly sensitive to the race card during this process, as I knew it was coming and knew Obama knew it was coming. I tried to only allow those ads/messages that were blatant to bother me. That was blatant. This one should hopefully backfire on them, as it's a new low for these clowns - overt racism and bald-faced lies all in one ad. Nice.
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endthewar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:23 AM
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33. I think this was featured on Rachel Maddow's show
and she was calling the McCain campaign out for the apparent racist appeal.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:08 PM
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4. i just found it.
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 11:09 PM by sweets
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:08 PM
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5. Is it the ad with that Raines dude from Fannie Mae...
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 11:10 PM by TWriterD
with the 'vulnerable' elderly white woman who could lose her home?

I wouldn't expect anything less from those MFers working the McNasty campaign, but it's still unfortunate.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:10 PM
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9. that's the one.
i am fucking appalled and angry.
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:12 PM
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11. I saw it last night (in NC)...
and was pretty fucking disgusted. I really hope 'people' see through this crap, but hope springs eternal...
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:13 PM
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14. i'm in arizona -- haven't seen it yet.
i had to google to find it.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:09 PM
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6. Yes, yes, yes, but what does this have to do with Bill Clinton?
Is Clinton in the ad? Did Clinton make the ad? Did Clinton maybe advise McCain to make the ad? What does this have to do with Clinton? He's tonight's topic of discussion, you know. Are we even allowed to talk about McCain? This all gives me a very bad feeling.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:15 PM
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18. who mentioned bill clinton? did i miss something?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:18 PM
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21. He seems to be tonight's designated topic of discussion.
For some reason, which must surely be the purest coincidence, whenever McCain is getting his butt kicked DU erupts in anti-Clinton threads. Interesting, n'est-ce pas?
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:20 PM
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24. i haven't seen anything. i guess i logged on too late. nt
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:21 PM
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26. You haven't missed anything worthwhile. n/t
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:36 AM
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41. This is just too easy.
But Clinton will be out there tomorrow talking about what a great guy mccain is and so on and so on. And he will never mention the dirty stuff mccain is doing. Then he will grit his teeth and give a faint recommendation of Obama being smart but needs to let people know he loves them, or so on. There are you happy now. I didn't want to disappoint you. :evilgrin:
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Every Man A King Donating Member (534 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:27 PM
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29. Well if you insist on asking
Why hasn't Bill condemned these ads that Mccain is running?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:10 PM
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7. They're showing a photo of a former head of Fannie Mae, Franklin Raines...
...who may or may not have spoken on the phone with Obama about economic issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s18LfIDpaIs

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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:12 PM
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10. Yes, that's the one. At least it's a real person. I thought it was a stock image!
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ropi Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:10 PM
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8. i wish obama would pull out
the Keating 5 trump card on him with that ad.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:14 PM
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17. i agree. it's time. nt
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:03 AM
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36. Actually Obama should expose Rick Davis for being a LOBBYIST for the Housing Industry
while still working on McCain's campaign and making $30,000 a month and then $15,000 a month since last month.

While Keating 5 is still an issue the bigger issue and most recent issue IS McCain has lobbyist working on his campaign who are and have benefitted from this "crisis" which would be more damaging.

I was soooo hoping Obama would have mentioned that in the debate, maybe he will hammer McCain in a later debate. But he needs to do it to remind everyone watching who the "Real" McCain is and NOT this fantasy McCain "maverick" which would be manna from heaven.


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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:12 PM
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12. It's probably Franklin Raines
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 11:13 PM by DefenseLawyer
who has never been an Obama adviser.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:30 AM
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44. Correct. Obama and he met ONCE. Mccain's getting desperate. Screaming abotu "racism" is wrong.
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DiamondKrosse Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:13 PM
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13. are you talking about
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:15 PM
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19. Yes, it is "mum" and the guy is Raines.
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:16 PM
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20. no. i saw a different one.
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 11:19 PM by sweets
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:13 PM
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15. Dude, didn't you ever notice that the Monopoly man is black?
Hell, they'll be using a clip of King Kong carrying off Fay Wray before the campaign is over.
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:32 PM
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31. ..
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:19 PM
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22. The whole reason they tried so hard to lay the groundwork to link
Obama to Raines, despite the fact that they have only talked a couple times and he is not an Obama advisor, was so that they could link Obama to a new "bad" black man in ads.
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:20 PM
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23. It's beginning
Raines. Lies. And OBAMA has no background in economics? Does that mean McLoony DOES? I hope McCain gets drug through the mud that he's throwing, by the media, until he's covered in muck from head to toe.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:20 PM
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25. Well you missed the real fraud in the ad

It has been acknowledged that Raines has never advised Obama and at the same time Davis's, McCain's campaign manager,company continued to recieve $ 15,000 a month until just a few days ago when their government buy out made it illegal and public.

Freddie Mac admitted that there was no real lobbying going on they were only interested in access to McCain.

Unconsciounable intellectual fraud.

I hope that after the election McCain is treated like the pariah he is.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:23 PM
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28. The ad is among the most dishonest to date, but that has become par
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:22 PM
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27. That is grade-A bullshit...
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 11:22 PM by and-justice-for-all
Lie, Lie, Lie...

and mcinsane had NO hand in the bail-out, ZERO.
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SDJay Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:29 PM
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30. That's not true.
He did have a hand in it - he fucked it up for his own hoped-for personal gain.

"Change is Coming" :rofl: That'd be like Krispy Kreme flashing, "Highly Nutritious" across the screen at the end of a commercial. They really, truly don't even care that they're lying, that everyone knows they're lying, that they're going to get hammered for lying and that it's costing them votes, it seems. I hope they keep it up.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:19 AM
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32. I'm thinking that the average person will not know who
Raines is (like you didn't at first) and will see it exactly the way you saw it, as a disgusting racist ad...I firmly believe there are more that will be disgusted by it than not....


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Poseidan Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:50 AM
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34. Who won the 1st Civil War?
We did, because of freed slaves. Maybe the second Civil War, the political Civil War, will also be won because of freed slaves. You could call it poetic justice.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:01 AM
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35. The is so outlandish I can't even take it serious. It's like a parody of itself. No-one can take >
McCain serious at this point, even when he's been ontroversail it's hillarious at this point.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:04 AM
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37. McCain only proves what a crook he is with this by stealing Obama's messages and saying more Repubs>
are to be considered change. This is some funny shit.
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elkston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:10 AM
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38. They used that same leering/scheming picture of Raines in the Fannie Mae Ad
There's definitely a subtext behind it. Look, I am black, and I know we've made progress here in America. But the simple truth these days is that when you think of a corporate CEO, the first image that pops in your head is not a black guy.

They put Raines in there for a reason. To tie Obama to the idea of ethically unsound "black leadership". Same thing the TN RNC did with the Kwame Kilpatrick/Obama ad. Next they'll somehow try and tie him to Marion Berry.


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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 01:24 AM
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39. Did You See The McCain Ad Featuring OJ Simpson?
I don't think they made one yet, but if McCain's polls numbers don't improve, I expect McCain to go 100% racist, because it would be the unstable, evil, and crazy thing to do.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:28 AM
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42. I'm kinda getting sick of people calling RACISM over really minor stuff. Seriously... stop it.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:29 AM
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43. also... this is barely even race BAITING. a little, but not worth the attention...
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RepublicanElephant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 02:35 AM
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45. shades of "the birth of a nation"
...you know, the scene with the black legislators eating fried chicken in the state house.

and let's not forget all the scared white women about town.
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abbiehoff Donating Member (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 10:58 AM
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46. I saw that ad this morning
It has to be the most outrageous lie yet to come out of the McCain camp, and that's saying a lot.

It's almost as if he somehow confused himself with Obama, and mixed up the names in the ad.

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