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Hope And Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:15 PM
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DailyKos diary: Former Clinton Supporter Sighs With Relief

Former Clinton Supporter Sighs With Relief


by litigatormom

Sat Sep 27, 2008 at 12:55:12 PM PDT

"Did you see it?" my friend J., her eyes wide and horrified, asked as she opened the door to her apartment last night at 7 pm. "Did you see it?" She was talking about Sarah Palin being interviewed by Katie Couric. I hadn't, but I'd seen enough video clips on YouTube to know why she looked so terrified.

My husband and I were going to eat dinner with J. and her husband T. and then watch the presidential debate, armed with cabernet and several tubs of premium ice cream. All four of us had been Clinton supporters, J. and I most passionately. Like many professional women who came of age in the late 70s and the 80s, we had seen ourselves in her, and we were infuriated by the way Clinton had been treated by the press, the DNC, and yes, some Obama supporters. And now we faced the first presidential debate in a state of high anxiety.

litigatormom's diary :: ::

As some of you might remember, I used to be a fairly frequent poster on this site, but I left in March after I found that it was impossible to make even a mildly positive comment about Clinton without being overwhelmed by tidal waves of negative and sometimes vitriolic responses. Perhaps because of my long history on the site, I didn't get as much of the really abusive comments as other Clinton supporters did, but there came a point when I could no longer be part of a community that tolerated such behavior. I swore that I would never return. And between March and about a week ago, I didn't, not even to lurk and read. I simply didn't want to know what was happening here.

I had started out with Chris Dodd and Bill Richardson as my second choices, but they soon disappeared from the race. I had a positive view of Obama, but he was farther down on my list of preferences because I had questions about his relative lack of experience and his tendency to underplay the achievements of the Clinton administration and to praise the administrations of Republicans. I thought he was long on inspiration and short on implementation. Still, I started out thinking that he would be an acceptable nominee. That view dimmed, however, as the discourse on this site deteriorated.

When Obama clinched the nomination, I was heartbroken and angry. I was furious at the DNC. I was frustrated by what I viewed as gloating and a lack of graciousness towards both Clinton herself and her supporters. "Where else are they going to go?" was the refrain of many Obama surrogates on television, in print and in the blogosphere, and I for one did not like my vote being taken for granted. I never for a nanosecond considered voting for McCain, but it took a while for me to reconcile myself to voting for Obama because I live in the safest of blue states, New York. He didn't need my vote, I thought. Even when I decided I would vote for Obama, I felt unenthusiastic, and felt no inclination to contribute time or effort to his campaign -- something that I had assumed I would do if he won before I became so disenchanted last winter.

After McCain picked Sarah Palin as his running mate, my sense of outrage overcame my reluctance to support Obama's campaign and I agreed to help host a fundraiser. My husband and I maxxed out for Obama less than a week ago, even as our anxiety about our financial stability grew. The events of the last few days only made me more afraid of the consequences of a McCain victory, as he decided to play chicken with the bailout for purely political purposes, all the while proclaiming that HE was the candidate who always put country first.

Last night, as I arrived at J's house, my support for Obama was still fueled by my ever-increasing belief that a McCain presidency would be catastrophic, perhaps even more catastrophic as the reign of King George II. I still was not supporting Obama out of a belief that he had the capacity to be a good, if not great president, despite a stirring acceptance speech in Denver that finally claimed the achievements of the Clinton administration as something to be built upon instead of dismissed. I still worried that he was long on inspiration and short on implementation.

As the debate began, J and I were tense. How would Obama do on what all the pundits asserted was McCain's strongest turf? Would he be aggressive enough? Would he be concrete instead of vague? Obama had never impressed me in the Democratic primary debates, and despite my contempt for McCain's hackneyed reliance on talking points, I feared that Obama would get lost in nuance, and would not attack when necessary. We drank our wine and consumed mass quantities of the ice cream to calm ourselves.

But slowly, we relaxed. I can nitpick and critique some of Obama's answers. I wish he had been a little more agressive in some of his responses. But finally, at long last, we saw the Obama we had needed to see. Strong, confident, at ease in his command of the details. Someone who was not put on the defensive by the grumpy McCain's contemptuous claims to greater experience and wisdom. Someone who could rebut McCain's misleading talking points and turn them back against him. Someone capable of learning the lessons of history and explaining them in terms that anyone could understand, instead of getting lost in nuance. Someone whose commitment to helping working families, and whose ability to explain why it was so important to the health of the overall economy that we do so. Someone whose judgment I could trust to take action wisely and well.

Finally, I feel that I can support Obama affirmatively, and not just as the better of the alternatives. Finally, I feel like I WANT him to president. He already had my vote, and he had already gotten my money. But at long last, he had my head and my heart.

Some of you may say, big deal, what took you so long? You may resent my criticism of how many on this board dealt with folks like me last winter. You may still not respect anyone who could have preferred Clinton to Obama. But I'm not apologetic about my support of Clinton, and I still believe she would have made a great president.

I started posting on this board because I was so overwhelmed with fear by the economic crisis, and no other board offered as much information in real time. A few of you remembered me and welcomed me back. I'm not writing this as the prodigal daughter who has finally repented and returned home. I'm writing this to let you know how two women skeptical of Obama have finally been convinced by him, and not our fear of McCain, to support Obama's election wholeheartedly. I'm still skeptical about Obama being a transformational figure or the reincarnation of Jack Kennedy, and some of the other hype about him. I had already decided that a roll of the dice on Obama was better than guaranteed snake-eyes with McCain. But I no longer feel like I'm rolling the dice. A President Obama will face problems graver than those faced by any new president in over 60 years. He may not be able to solve them. But I have a confidence in him that I never had before, and I am glad to have it. And I strongly suspect that we were not the only ones Obama won over last night.

Thanks for listening.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/27/145024/378/684/612585

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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:23 PM
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1. Bravo K and Recommend
That kind of honesty is a thing of beauty.

Thank you for sharing with DU. :hug:
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:23 PM
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2. An excellent read.......Recommended. (nt)
:kick:
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dee15644 Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:29 PM
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3. Loved this!
I hope more Clinton supporters feel the way she did.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:41 PM
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4. This is exactly the way I felt.
However, Obama won me over much earlier than this debate.

It's not a best alternative for me.

I REALLY, REALLY want him to Prez.

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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:51 PM
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6. Seriously...
I don't see how anyone can vote for McCain. I really don't. His policies on the economy are disastrous (de-regulation out the ass is what got us into this crisis in the first place!) and his foreign policy is worse than Bush's in my opinion. He scoffs at the notion of talking with Iran. The man doesn't believe in diplomacy. Our founding fathers would be ashamed if this guy got into office. He will pretty much bomb every country that he views as "the enemy," and consequently we will be staring straight in the face of a nuclear standoff with major powers like Russia and China. Obama has the temperament, like Hillary, to deal with other foreign leaders and at least use diplomacy FIRST instead of just cranking up a war for the hell of it. More wars will lead to more economic problems in our own country. The Iraq War itself has been a pretty big factor in our current economic problems. More of this crap will plunge us into a depression. Even then, however, the actual policy of unilateral pre-emptive wars itself will have us facing potential extinction for everyone in the civilized world, including ourselves. This isn't the old days. Everyone has nukes now so trying to assert our force on weaker countries will only piss off their allies who are similarly powerful to us.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 04:17 PM
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8. I agree with you 100%
Don't know if I'm reading your post correctly, but never for a moment was I considering McCain.
I was only smarting after Hillary lost but quickly pulled my head outta my ass.

I apologize if my post gave the impression that I was ever for McCain.
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 05:26 PM
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12. Oh no, don't get me wrong...
To be honest I was just ranting in general. Has less to do with Hillary or her supporters and more to do with how dumbfounded I am at how much McCain is allowed to get away with. His nutjob foreign policy alone should keep him out of the Presidency, never mind his disastrous economic policy. But people let him get away with saying he's a maverick when he's really just an old, pandering politician with some really fucked up views on how to handle some major issues. As I said, I wasn't really responding to your post so much as I was just looking for a spot to post a good little rant. I don't know if it's racism or what, but people seem to be letting McCain get away with the kind of crap that would end Barack's campaign in a heartbeat. It's frustrating to watch.
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 05:33 PM
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14. Cool. Sorry I misinterpreted.
Lord knows we all need a good rant once and awhile!
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notaboutus Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:46 PM
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5. Totally Understand
Thank you, Your post was honest no bias no bull straight from your heart. :applause:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 04:13 PM
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7. The debate gelled the Democratic Party
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 04:23 PM
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9. Well done. K/R.
:kick:
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 05:14 PM
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10. High praise and well done. K&R
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 05:22 PM
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11. Glad you're back. I've never understood anyone attacking a supporter of any candidate, just because
they disagree with you. rec'd
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 05:26 PM
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13. Somebody tell Neshanic
:hide:

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bagimin Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 07:30 PM
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15. Good to hear this..
hope other Clinton supporters hop on board.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 08:41 PM
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16. Thanks for the post and the insight.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 11:39 PM
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17. I believe that there are many out there who may have had the same reaction to Obama's
intelligence and rationality during the debate.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 11:46 PM
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18. Great Post! Since I'm a newbie to this whole thing I have to say
that I am very glad I wasn't here during the primaries. Sounds like it was pretty rough!!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 11:48 PM
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19. That's nice. She finally 1/2-way sees way jillions of us have seen all along.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:23 AM
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20. A lot of us came around to Obama after seeing him in action just as you did
he's really something special.

Hillary would have beaten almost anybody else running in the primaries (perhaps not Gore).

But for those of us watching Obama closely over the past few years, he so impressed us that we noticed. I always liked Obama but it took me a long time to finally decide to vote for him and contribute to him --in my case, it was the week before Super Tuesday when I sent my ballot in.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 09:18 AM
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23. That happened to me too
I was going to vote for him in any case because McCain is simply unacceptable, but now I feel much more confident. I'm convinced that whatever he does it will be decisions based on thoughtful reasoning. He is intelligent and a Democrat. And I truly like Biden! What a great choice. The choice of Biden helped clinch my confidence.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:41 AM
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21. Excellent article. I was a Hillary supporter myself.
She won CA in the primaries, as most expected, and like nearly every Californian that voted in the Democratic primaries, "we" in the Golden State are solidly behind Obama now. He has had a 15+ point lead here and that might even go higher after the debate(s).


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garthranzz Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 01:49 AM
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22. Yeah!

That's it.

YEAH!
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:10 AM
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24. I'm a Clinton supporter,
I live in a battleground state and the ONLY reason I am going to vote for Obama instead of McKinney is because I am friggen TERRIFIED of Palin. Had McCain chosen someone reasonably competent, I'd still be voting for McKinney.

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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-29-08 12:29 AM
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25. litagatormom
Seems to me you have every right in the world to feel what you did. It also seems to me that thoughtful analysis of a situation is a good thing. Even if it is not true, we can blame gloating and abuse on this site to trolls. This is still the best place for progressive thought that I have found, and I for one welcome you back. Every thinking,caring voter is needed, even if we live in a blue state. Numbers count and as important as the Presidency is, we need numbers to rid ourselves of legislators at the state and federal level.
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