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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:44 AM
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The all-in-one guide to McCain's stupidest moments from the debate:
Post your "favorites" here:

Pakistan was a 'failed state' when Musharif took over. Not true; they had inner struggles like all countries do, nut it was a strong democracy and had a decent economy. Bhutto had strong military opposition but was widely liked by Pakistani citizens; so much so they were going to re-elect her when she was assassinated last year. Obama jumped on that and corrected him, brw.

There were several others, but I work and play well with others, so I'll not contimue.

The media looks at the blogs,picks up the stories, THEN does the research, so help them out, smart DUers!
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:45 AM
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1. North Koreans are 3 inches shorter than South Koreans
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:46 AM
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3. I laughed my ass off at that one just because it was a fact pulled from space.
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:52 AM
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15. He could have just said...
"I've got authentic maverick lint in my bellybutton and how ya like me now?", and not have gotten as much of a :wtf: from me.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:48 AM
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10. The ONE time I stepped out of the room was just before he said that,. I had 15 guests and I knew I'd
missed something big; you could hear the groan down the block, I bet.

I will never, ever fgorgive myself for that; YouTube just isn't the same as seeing it happen.

DAMN!
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:31 AM
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33. You know, I think this might be true. Maybe not the exact number, but I remember hearing this before
Edited on Sat Sep-27-08 10:38 AM by kineta
North Koreans are often malnourished.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/27/070/97019/364/611888
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract;jsessionid=EE662A5B499E57D5D41D1E6F17085377.tomcat1?fromPage=online&aid=1958588

Summary

This paper investigates height and weight differences between the two Koreas by comparing national anthropometric data published by the South Korean Research Institute of Standard and Science with United Nations survey data collected inside North Korea in 2002. For socioeconomic reasons, pre-school children raised in the developing country of North Korea are up to 13 cm shorter and up to 7 kg lighter than children who were brought up in South Korea – an OECD member. North Korean women were also found to weigh up to 9 kg less than their Southern counterparts.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:46 AM
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2. He said nothing about the middle class
But really, his biggest mistake was not looking at Obama.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:46 AM
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4. WTF is an 'existential' threat?
Also, his horrible bumbling over the name of Iran's leader that I don't care to attempt to spell right now :D

ALSO ALSO, his creepy grin.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:47 AM
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8. "Ahmadinejad."
Pronounced "Ahh-mahh-deen-a-jahd," unless I am mistaken. :D

:hide:
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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:57 AM
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21. An existential threat...
Is one where Albert Camus says he'll bonk you on the head with a copy of The Stranger if you don't buy The Cure's entire discography.

Ah, shit. I need coffee.
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cameozalaznick Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:16 AM
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27. Existential threat is a threat to one's existence. nt
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:28 AM
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32. the existential thing was bizarre. i thought his bumbling was pandering to xenophobia
ofcourse i am cynical like that.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:34 AM
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35. it's when your death chases you around in circles, like the KGB shadows tapping my internets
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hexola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:46 AM
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5. Russia is an "existential" threat...(nt)
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:56 AM
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18. Defintley existential threat....Nietzsche!!! LOOK OUT!!!
No, that's more of a existential warning...damn.

There should be a wikipedia entry on Existential Threats....anyone out there wiki??

Jean-Paul Sartre can be pictured over Dostoevsky with a large mallet menacingly in his hand. Maybe this is what McCain meant.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:56 AM
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19. Definitely made me go 'wtf?'
lol
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:04 AM
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23. Armchair Generalist: Terrorists as Existential Threats
Existential Threats are generally lies and excuses for military adventurism!!

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Terrorists as Existential Threats
http://armchairgeneralist.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/09/terrorists-as-e.html

There is an interesting trend where politicians and homeland security analysts talk about terrorists as "existential threats," as in threats that have the potential to bring down the government. Defense Secretary Bob Gates used the term .....

Pakistan truly faces an existential threat, armed and organized religious terrorists who have a big beef with their government and a sympathetic population. When you hear talking heads mentioning domestic terrorism within the United States as an "existential threat," then you know the talking head is a bombastic slug who has no concept of the term.

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Feb 4, 2007 ... Bill Frist, then Senate majority leader, called bioterrorism "the greatest existential threat we have in the world" ....

Existential threat is regarded as a military or terrorist threat to existence usually involves nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:46 AM
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6. I have a pen!
I have a bracelet!

The height of Koreans was random and he didn't make his point but left people saying WTF.

Freeze spending.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:46 AM
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7. Akma Akba ummmm... Akba-Ma-na-deen-ah-jad
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:47 AM
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9. I had to give him that one... I can't say it either.
but that's the only slack I'm willing to cut McNasty.
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:22 AM
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29. But you aren't running for president
I think the president (and all members of Congress and diplomatic officials) should be able to properly pronounce the name of a foreign leader of that prominence. If a news reader like Contessa Brewer can be taught to do that, so should John McCain.
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MgtPA Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:28 AM
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31. Whoppi Goldberg has a trick for that one, and it works. Just think...
..."I'm in a dinner jacket" and by the time you get to the last syllable, you've got it.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:49 AM
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12. Reminded me of Office Space
Not-Gonna-Work-Here-Anymore
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Lost-in-FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:48 AM
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11. McSame's "I went there to Georgia" moment...
reminded me of the "I can see Alaska from my house" Palin moment. I don't know why. My husband and I started laughing.
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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:50 AM
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13. The Ireland reference for economic policy
Ireland is the first Euro country to be in recession.
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:50 AM
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14. I believe that he said he'd veto EVERY spending bill!
No caveats, no exceptions, said he'd veto everything.
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:55 AM
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16. What are these "credits" of which you speak?
"And have no doubt about the magnitude of this crisis. And we're not talking about failure of institutions on Wall Street. We're talking about failures on Main Street, and people who will lose their jobs, and....

...their credits, and their homes, if we don't fix the greatest fiscal crisis, probably in -- certainly in our time, and I've been around a little while."
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:57 AM
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22. I almost forgot about that. It's YOUR fault and MY fault, but not
Edited on Sat Sep-27-08 09:58 AM by blondeatlast
the CEOs of Lehman Bros, AIG, etc...

Riiiight, you doddering fool. :mad:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:14 AM
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25. We laughed at that one. Kinda like the internets.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:55 AM
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17. K I S S I N G E R
www.wearableartnow.com
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Happyhippychick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 09:57 AM
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20. His first line was "this is not the beginning of the end but the end of the beginning" - WTF??
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:14 AM
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24. I thought that was stupid, too.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:15 AM
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26. I thought he looked like a fool over the whole "preconditions" thing.
The longer he went on about it, the stupider he sounded.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:20 AM
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28. That right there is what lost it for him.
browbeating is painful to watch on TV.

someone said earlier that he reminded many people of their ex-husbands.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 11:03 AM
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37. I can see that comparison. Or the office bully who's trying to get
ahead by trashing his coworker. Everybody sees it for what it is.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:23 AM
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30. KISSINGER, and putting a "Freeze" on all federal government programs but defense ...nt
Edited on Sat Sep-27-08 10:25 AM by Genevieve
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agentS Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:34 AM
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34. Actually, he's kind of right...kind of...
The Norks (they don't like that term, but too bad) are 6 to 8 inches shorter that the South Koreans.
http://www.kansascity.com/749/story/347788.html

So he was close, but still way off. In other words, the problem is 2x worse than he said it was.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 10:45 AM
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36. Here's a bunch if mccain errors
Edited on Sat Sep-27-08 10:46 AM by Essene
1. The condescension. The lack of respect. The body language. The glares of disgust. The tone. He overplayed his hand on this, being behind in the polls and being outflanked on the bottom line issues that make americans anxious. Mccain seemed flustered, angry and downright nasty. Obama shrugged and even laughed him off.

2. Spending freeze. Absolutely "from left field" overreaction to a serious question. It made him look very rash and is likely to be a fun talking point for the pundits for days, if not weeks. He completely missed the mark and the issue spending cuts is his strongest point.

3. "He's dangerous." He repeated this several times with real emotional disgust, and it came off very crazy. Even if folks believed Mccain had a point about Obama's rhetoric about a presidential meeting with "the enemy," Mccain overplayed it and came off nasty. Obama countered strong with the remark about bomb bomb bomb iran, etc.

4. Mccain refused to talk broadly about what matters to people. He went for the throat on the talking points that differentiate him from Bush and Obama, but he never cut to the bottom line.

5. Mccain really sets himself up for being destroyed on the issue of pakistan. They more he keeps misrepresenting Obama as wrong in going after al qaeda, the more he sets himself up for being left behinf oonce and for all.

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