Sounds like the real fireworks were at the University of Buffalo last night between Wes Clark and Karl Rove:
When the question turned to the Iraq War, the debate became much more spirited, with a mix of applause and boos from the audience of 3,500 greeting some of Rove's comments.
"Our goal must be nothing short of complete victory in the war on terror," Rove said. "We need to finish the job in Iraq, and we need to add additional forces in Afghanistan."
"They've American troops done a great job there," Clark said. "Now, let's get 'em home."
Rove noted that the United States has not been hit by terrorists since the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, saying, "I will make no apologies whatsoever for that at all."
"I know this is a contentious issue," Rove said. "We could debate this all day long. The fact of it is, when we went into this, it was a consensus."
He pointed at Clark and said the retired general had supported the Iraq War resolution, then opposed it when he ran for president.
"I didn't support a blank check for George Bush," Clark said. "I didn't. I wouldn't. I don't, and I won't."
When the discussion between the two heated up, Rove asked for a few more minutes to clear up some of his points.
"This won't take long," Rove said.
"That's what was said about Iraq, as I recall," Clark snapped back.
At one point, as the debate turned into a back-and-forth, moderator Dennis Black, vice president for student affairs at UB, stepped between the two speakers to move the program along.
"We invited everyone for a debate," Black said. "We have one."
more at:
http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/09/the_other_debate.html