McCain's major debate points.

[Johonny]

1) McCain will not talk with foreign leaders even if they are our ally unless they have been thoroughly massaged by lower ranking people in his White House. Leadership apparently is following other peoples lead.

2) McCain mockingly explains he wouldn't tell foreign leaders they are wrong in face to face meeting. Apparently if you say anti-Semitic things in front of McCain, McCain isn’t ready to stand up and say they are wrong.

3) McCain thinks he can balance the budget removing earnmarks no matter how small they are in the overall budget.

4) McCain will cut defense spending while fighting 2 wars and restarting the cold war with Russia and China! Wait McCain is cutting defense spending and Rethugs think he won the debate?

5) McCain is very old and supported many conflicts that most Americans can’t remember we even had.

6) McCain is very old and visited a lot of countries that most Americans have no feelings about.

7) McCain seems to think not matter what stupid reasons you start a war, you should just forget about past mistakes and keep fighting it until you can win even if he can never define victory due the fact the war was fought for stupid reasons. What victory, there were no WMDs in the country?

8) McCain has no basic future vision of the US. About the only thing McCain is ready to do day one is to veto a bunch of budgets and build 45 nuclear reactors some where.

9) McCain will not go into a country that actually has Al-Qaeda inside it operating.

10) McCain will gladly keep giving money to countries that harbor terrorist and do nothing to help capture them.

11) McCain will create a league of extraordinary countries, who’s job it is to get suckered into every bad foreign conflict he plans to make. Thus eliminating the need for the UN.

12) McCain’s new league will include basically NATO allies and how it’s different than NATO I have no idea? He just tried to reinvent NATO as his idea!

13) McCain hasn’t learned anything from Iraq.

14) McCain wants to use what he learned in Iraq to fight in Afghanistan even though he apparently learned nothing in Iraq.

[krkaufman]

1. McCain will somehow jumpstart a massive increase in domestic energy production ...

... including wind, solar and nuclear energy, and will also work to curb climate change -- while implementing a freeze on all spending outside defense, veterans and entitlements. (Neat trick, if he can pull it off, especially with those tax cuts he's proposing while at the same time promising to balance the budget.)

[krkaufman]

2. Re: bullet 7... stupid reasons for starting a war

McCain apparently feels the old saying...

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

... is complete bunk, and so he doesn't need to consider his failure of judgment in advocating for the invasion of Iraq.

[Johonny]

3. Remember McCain logic

His POW experience 30 years ago shows his truth of character and thus is very important for voters to use it to make up their minds. However McCain's insane lust for war in Iraq in which his party lied to start the war is old news. Not to be considered by voters to show his true character. Iraq war vote old news that doesn't matter anymore. McCain sitting around in prison 5+years vital to your decision making. American sitting around in Iraq for 5 years of no real importance. Obama stop talking about it, it's in the past so it tells us nothing of what McCain might do in the future. Understand... cause I don't

[krkaufman]

4. It's not about convincing McCain of anything, but demonstrating McCain's poor judgment ...

... and deficient intellect to the public. *Everyone* knows that quote, and it would crystallize the impression of McCain's inability to learn from his past mistakes. (And might even spur some people to have "old dog" thoughts.)

edit: Another example of McCain failing to learn from the past is the Keating 5 scandal. Even after his mistakes there, he still championed deregulation... all the way to the next deregulation-induced financial crash. Full circle, tying every together.