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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:55 PM
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Three screenshots which tell the whole story:


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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:56 PM
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1. Wow. K&R
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:56 PM
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2. K & R!
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:56 PM
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3. 68-41? That's 109.
:wtf:
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clevbot Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:57 PM
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7. WTF LOL
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:03 AM
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10. It's two separate questions: "Do you trust McCain to make the right decisions on the economy?" 41%
say yes.

"Do you trust Obama to make the right decisions on the economy?" 68% say yes.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:25 PM
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32. you're correct- though that 109% threw me, too.
these results are VERY good.
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FatDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:06 AM
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12. Look, if they haven't figured out who to vote for yet, what makes you think they can do basic math?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 01:52 PM
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26. I was thinking the same thing!
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:35 AM
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49. It's two separate questions. n/t
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whopis01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 01:20 PM
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23. To get out of this mess everyone is going to have to give 110%. n/t
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Aloha Spirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 01:54 PM
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27. and a pint of blood.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:29 PM
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33. And five grand.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 01:25 PM
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25. it's within the margin.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 02:50 PM
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28. Hey! That looks live Repug math!
Hmmm....
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:36 AM
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50. Two different questions n/t
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aggiesal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:02 AM
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41. Let vote manipulation season begin!!! n/t
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:37 AM
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52. What is wrong with all of you?
This was two diffrent questions.
Do you trust X to make the right decisions on the economy.

Hell it could have been 88 to 96 and it still would have made sense.

Why is everyone assuming some kind of crazy conspiracy or epic math fail?
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aggiesal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:20 PM
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55. I don't read it that way. ...
I read as:
Who would you trust to make the right decision on the Economy, McCain or Obama?
You can't choose both with that question.

No where does it say "Do you trust X ..."
It doesn't even imply that.

Personally, I believe it's a typo.
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:56 PM
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4. Opinion of McCain?
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 07:19 PM
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38. I'd like to know that too. n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:56 PM
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5. Excellently Cool!
:woohoo:

Americans actually aren't that stupid......

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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:56 PM
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6. K & R
:thumbsup:
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:57 PM
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8. Kick
:kick: Cool! I think I will sleep better tonight
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:58 PM
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9. sweeeeeeet
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:05 AM
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11. Thanks..wonder what the
uncommitted voters thought of mccain?
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:06 AM
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13. KICK
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:06 AM
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14. kick
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:16 AM
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15. K&R. Post of the night, IMO
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:18 AM
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16. More here, CNN:
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:25 AM
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17. These are not accurate. I saw an ad even before the debate started, confirming that McCain won.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 01:44 AM
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18. Good one!
:rofl:
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 01:53 AM
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19. Barack the house!!! nt
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 06:56 AM
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20. kicking
this bad boy

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Glimmer of Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 06:59 AM
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21. Looking good!
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vanderBeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 07:01 AM
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22. Nice
:smoke:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 01:23 PM
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24. the second pic, is there one for McCain?
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 05:17 PM
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34. You can watch video here...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x199952

The bad news is that 55% thought McCain would make better decisions about Iraq; while 49% thought Obama would do so.

They didn't present the poll results for whether the people polled had better or worse opinions about McCain after viewing the debate.

:(
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crazy_vanilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 02:51 PM
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29. awsome!!! kick n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 02:58 PM
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30. Here's the story behind the screenshots

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PRESIDENTIAL_DEBATE_POLLS?SITE=NVLAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

From the Las Vegas Review Journal
2 quick polls give Obama edge in debate




A pair of one-night polls gave Barack Obama a clear edge over John McCain in their first presidential debate.


Fifty-one percent said Obama, the Democrat, did a better job in Friday night's faceoff while 38 percent preferred the Republican McCain, according to a CNN-Opinion Research Corp. survey of adults.

Obama was widely considered more intelligent, likable and in touch with peoples' problems,
and by modest margins was seen as the stronger leader and more sincere. Most said it was McCain who spent more time attacking his opponent.

About six in 10 said each did a better job than expected. Seven in 10 said each seemed capable of being president.

In a CBS News poll of people not committed to a candidate, 39 percent said Obama won the debate, 24 percent said McCain and 37 percent called it a tie. Twice as many said Obama understands their needs than said so about McCain.


Seventy-eight percent said McCain is prepared to be president, about the same proportion of uncommitted voters as said so before the debate. Sixty percent said Obama is ready - a lower score than McCain, but a solid 16-percentage-point improvement from before the debate.

In another Obama advantage in the CBS poll, far more said their image of him had improved as a result of the debate than said it had worsened.
More also said their view of McCain had gotten better rather than worse, but by a modest margin.

The CNN poll involved telephone interviews with 524 adults who watched the debate and had a margin of error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points. The CBS survey involved online interviews with 483 uncommitted voters who saw the debate and had an error margin of plus or minus 4 points. It was conducted by Knowledge Networks, which initially selected the respondents by telephone.

Both polls were conducted Friday night.

Polls conducted on one night can be less reliable than surveys conducted over several nights because they only include the views of people available that particular evening.


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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 08:32 PM
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40. One old Repub told me today that McCain sounded grumpy in the debate, agitated by Obama.
He said he was surprised that McCain didn't even look over at Obama and smile at him during the debate.

So, I asked him if he thought that was because McCain had a little racism in him.
He said, "that could be, but it made McCain look old and grumpy to me."

Wow!
Like I said, they wanted Romney here for their nominee, they don't like McCain.

It's going to be interesting to see if the 39 point lead that Johnny Mac had here at the beginning of the month holds up to the next poll taken here by Rasmussen.

I don't think Palin's interview will help her here, if anything, it will cause their numbers to go lower because I think she will stumble badly during her debate.

We've got to cut these numbers down here in Idaho.
I wish we could get about a million dollars to help us here, but I understand the electoral college numbers that are at stake would never justify it.

The Republican candidate running for the empty Senate seat of Larry Craig was caught sending out mailers using a "Right to Life" group's letterhead, envelopes, complete with their P.O. Box. That particular group has a lower mailing rate to pay for the mailings than a political P.O. box, so we've asked the FEC to look into the illegality of the situation. But the FEC under Bush is ineffective, so I doubt anything will come of it.

However, it does boost LaRocco's(D) chances a little bit more to get into the Senate.
The voters here have more of a "throw all of the bums out" attitude now, and I think they will toss Risch(R) as a carbon copy of what Larry Craig stood for.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 03:04 PM
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31. now that's what i'm talking about
Edited on Sat Sep-27-08 03:04 PM by barbtries
we might get enough votes to defeat the republicans' plans to steal this election.
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OakCliffDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 06:22 PM
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35. Was there ever any doubt who would win? n/t
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 06:26 PM
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36. Very cool
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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LaStrega Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 06:45 PM
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37. I haven't seen a poll that showed Obama % lower than McSame. k&r n/t
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 07:20 PM
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39. Need Opinion of McCain ScreenShot
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 08:15 AM
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42. While Barack Obama
and the Democrats offer a way out of the hole George Bush and the Republicans have dug for us, John McCane and Bush's republican enablers offer more shovels.
Rule number one; When in a hole, stop digging.
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kmdemqueen Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 08:23 AM
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43. that is a big lead
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Willo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 08:27 AM
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44. Obama has cut into McCain's core arguments:
1) That Obama doesn't know foreign policy

2) That he is an empty suite and only draws large crowds because he gives good speeches.

That's all Obama needed to accomplish in the first debate and he did great.

:toast:
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 09:48 AM
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45. Good numbers, however...
1) It's only one poll;
2) Polls can be flawed;
3) Polls don't vote

That said, these results are still encouraging.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 09:51 AM
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46. thank you so much..
I had no idea.
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 12:44 PM
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54. Just call me Mr. Obvious
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:33 AM
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47. It's not going to matter this time
Edited on Sun Sep-28-08 10:34 AM by Phred42
2006 was a Fluke. Rove miscalculated. They have been working since to correct their mistakes


We really need to be preparing (mentally and otherwise) for this - See this post for clarification:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4105753&mesg_id=4105753

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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:34 AM
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48. YIPPEEEE!!!!! This is truly a great weekend! nt
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 10:36 AM
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51. Word. Good news.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-28-08 11:32 AM
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53. yeah...but he is black...and she has tits....
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