****Are there any White Working Class Voters Here?

[firedupdem]

Tweety and company keeps saying Obama doesn't connect with White Working Class Voters! Where are they getting this shit? Do they mean to say white working class assholes or bigots? I don't get it!


Somebody Talk Me Down!

[jillan]

1. Right here.

[LiberadorHugo]

2. It's kind of true...

Working class, non-unionized White voters in Dixie and Appalachia are not going for Obama.

[firedupdem]

9. in your honest opinion...why? n/t

[LiberadorHugo]

18. Easy...

If you look at sub-demographics among White voters, you'll see that Obama is popular in regions where people tend to be well-educated and where there's a lot of union penetration; these demographics parallel the situation of White people in much of Canada and Europe, who favour Obama by an overwhelming margin even though they are not American and not able to vote.

As for why he can't connect with those people, he's too intelligent and he's too Black. It's very difficult for complex truths to overcome simplistic propaganda among people who believe that the world was created 6,000 years ago by a Hebrew war god in 7 days. Almost no Jews and almost no European Christians believe this to be true. The Appalachian counties of Ky sure as fuck didn't go 95% Clinton because the people are feminists...lol (Mind you, this is generally true, not universally true...I'm sure you can even drag out the odd African-American voter with a college degree and a unionized job who's supporting McCain.)

[AlabamaBrightBlueDot]

24. hey hey hey!

I am a 47 year old, non union white woman in the deeeeep south.

Obama is MY candidate!

[LiberadorHugo]

28. Read what I said about a generally true vs. a universally true statement.

It might help. Suppose 80 - 90% of White people in AR supported segregation during the 1940s; does this mean that Bill Clinton's grandparents felt that way? (Asked Slick Willy what grandma did when he used the n-word at age 3.)

[1corona4u]

51. Just say it. You're talking about racist..

:eyes:

[liberalmuse]

3. I'm sort of working class...

I have been most of my life, anyway. I feel Obama connects with me. I'm glad you brought this up, because I was wondering what the hell Tweety and Co. were talking about. Obama connects very well with what people like myself are going through . McCain doesn't. I don't get how they could see something so completely different than I saw.

[Rhiannon12866]

4. I don't know about this board, but I'd think that most white working-class voters are Democrats...

:shrug:

[1corona4u]

52. Exactly.

[Coexist]

5. i'm pretty white, i make under $5 mil

do I count?

[dchill]

36. You're in the demo!

:)

[1corona4u]

6. I just posted on this too. REALLY PISSES ME OFF....

see my post too! let me et the link...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7214298

[justgamma]

7. Well, he connects just fine

with this old, white, poor, working class female.

[goodgd_yall]

8. I heard Tweety say that that too

That's when I switched to Fox News and found that a Nevada focus group of independents was overwhelmingly critical of McCain and believed Obama won the debate. That was a good antidote to Tweety's nonsense.

To think that I found Fox news reporting something positive about Obama and Tweety being hypercritical.

[KathieG]

10. I am...last time I checked

[TheDonkey]

11. I'd assume know because pundits say Obama has yet to connect with them

can't "close the deal."

[firedupdem]

12. is it his race? is it education? what? n/t

[msallied]

13. they have NOTHING to base this on. NOTHING.

I'm white and working class. So is my family and 90% of my friends. We know who the elitist fucks are, and it's not Barack Obama.

[firedupdem]

14. thanks! I'm just trying to find out what they really mean by that! n/t

[msallied]

misplaced my reply. See message directly below this one. :) nt

[msallied]

26. Rough translation:

We need to keep this race close, and in order to do that, we have to create the narrative that rural white folk don't know a good thing when they see it, because that good thing has brown skin.

[Raschel]

15. I think he means White working class stupid people and bigots.

And when did an education become a bad thing? These a-holes better not ever talk about education again, because all they have ever done was try to ostracize Obama due to his education and his intellect.

Now all of the sudden that's something to be ashamed of, a disconnect? If McCain was that smart or educated they'd be shoving it down our throats.

[firedupdem]

16. exactly! I hate that..it makes me really angry. Most americans

black or white are dealing with the same issues, jobs shipped overseas, trying to educate our children etc. So if they dont' connect they dont' want to connect! simple

[Raschel]

27. What do we tell our children now ?

Don't get an education or you'll be an elitist? What idiots.

[MichDem10]

17. I'm working class white - and Obama has connected with me!

[provis99]

19. well, he connects with this white, poor, ex-Mississippian

and I was a Kucinich supporter before I shifted to Obama. Did Tweety forget to say we're stupid, too?

[firedupdem]

21. tweety is an ass...just when I think I can stomach him he makes me sick...... n/t

[Clio the Leo]

20. while I like to THINK that I'm an elite rich socialite ........

.... i'm really just a broke working stiff like everyone else.

[TooRaLoo]

22. Me and my bf love us some Obama!

[WeDidIt]

23. I'm White, 45, and middle class

I've been an Obama fan for almost 6 years.

[Rebellious Republican]

25. I will do ya one, well ok two or three better.....

I am a white, blue collar, upper lower middle class, F150 pick up truck driven, veteran, middle aged southern male, raised in Kentucky living in Florida.

So thats eight or nine, sorry, I cant count.

[rucky]

29. They mean exactly what you think they mean.

So I have two questions:

1) Aside from his low melanin count, how exactly does McCain "connect" with this group in a way Obama doesn't?

2) Should Obama take the Step'n'fetchit approach, or go more Uncle Tom, in order to "connect"?

Now you have to talk me down!

[firedupdem]

35. I really think it's MSM's way of creating a bigger division than

there is. I think some people are just blind uninformed republicans that just vote with their party no matter what...and then there are ignorant asses that won't vote for Obama because he's black. I think they media tries to play that divide up more than it really is...to create dissension. Look at our convention! That was unity...all colors in the rainbow. Look at the RNC...not really a picture of what america really looks like.

[Raschel]

48. the RNC...not really a picture of what america really looks like.

Yes. Let's talk about who doesn't connect. McCain does not represent what America looks like. It's McCain who has the disconnect.

[Raschel]

37. I think they want him to jump down turn around.

Maybe that's it. But the "boy" really is an elitist for getting him some education. Now he's arrogant. Doesn't know his place.

McCain is up for position now. It's SUPPOSED to be his, according to the real elites and insiders. Ya know, due to his POW experience that he went thru almost fifty years ago.

What about the other POWs? What are they due? McCain won't even let them reach out to try to find out Viet Nam Vet info.

[pnwmom]

30. My 47 yr. old brother falls into that category. He loves Obama

and he's been talking him up at the factory for months.

[moonlady0623]

31. White.....working........

voting Obama.......

[amborin]

32. hey

if one works for a paycheck, one is working class

seriously

alas, in the us, folks mostly identify as "middle class"

but, anyway, there are pockets of folks who buy into the war rhetoric, who like the tough, sabre rattling talk, who don't know what 'socialism' really means and who buy into the lies and smears about obama having a liberal record

truth is, both parties are way right of center

we don't have any left wing candidate

Kucinich came closest

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

33. I'm white and 51 years old

I make about $60,000 a year. You're damned fucking right I'm voting for Obama.

[dawgmom]

34. My brother-in-law supports Obama

He is white, 50, and is the union representative at a large truck manufacturing plant in Ohio. He supports Obama, but is very frustrated by the responses he gets from workers then when he talks up Obama. He says a lot of it is openly race-based, particularly among the men.

[firedupdem]

38. sad... n/t

[Raschel]

39. But everyone identifies with Palin?

Who do you know that hunts wolves from helicopters and names their kids Frick and Frack?

Now THAT's someone hard to identify with.

[firedupdem]

47. frick and frack....LOL! n/t

:rofl:

[appleannie1]

40. White, working class, female, over 65. For Obama.

In fact, even though my husband and I are retired, because of our economy, I had to go back to work.

[appleannie1]

45. Lets DU Tweety at their website and set him straight.

[Barack_America]

41. I don't know who they're talking about.

They act as if the white, blue collar workers are a monolithic group. That is patently untrue.

We are Midwesterners, South Philadelphians, Northeast Philadelphians, etc. We are Catholics, Baptists, non-Christians, etc.

There are cultural influences that are just as important (if not more so) than our pay grades.

I don't think they know who we are.

[Waiting For Everyman]

42. Maybe Matthews is referring to Reagan Dems?

I think O. connects just fine too.

Oh yeah... white, veterans' widow, 58, working class. Of course working class now used to be middle class, but that's changed. And I already realize I'll never be able to retire.

[lady raven]

43. Right here. n/t

[Starlight]

44. I'm not sure what they mean by "working class." Anyone with a job?

Wouldn't that include everyone who isn't independently wealthy and lives off their investments? That is, virtually everyone? :shrug:

[Jade Fox]

46. I guess they got tired of saying he doesn't connect with white women....

:wtf: It's all crap with these media pundits

[Cha]

49. Rec'd! White working

class here.

[workinclasszero]

50. **Raises hand**

Ex factory rat from Michigan here. I'm trailer white trash, a union worker, a USAF veteran and I'm proudly voting for Obama in the fall.

That will be the second time I and my wife will vote for Obama. Voted for him first in the Missouri primary a while back. Oh my wife is a bus driver, a Teamster member and a sold out Obama fan!

Fuck Tweety and company.

[firedupdem]

53. We have to gather all these posts and send them to tweety and company..

I hate when they say that...I just think it's unfair to clump people together like that. He wouldn't have won the nomination if he didn't connect.

[OnionPatch]

54. I need someone to define "working class."

I'm white and work for a living. And I'm not getting paid a bundle or even close to it. Does that make me eligible?