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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:24 PM
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the McCain camp is making such a big deal out of Obama's agreement with him--
I guess they must think Obama's opinion is pretty important after all.

Can they really question his judgment any more, after using his agreement with McCain as Talking Point Number One?
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:25 PM
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1. Spin it as "McCain shares a lot of Obama's opinions"
Just flip it around. Easy.
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:25 PM
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See other discussions here about how Obama was using a diplomatic and debating tool. nt
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:31 PM
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16. That's how I saw it-- nothing more. repugs are desperate if that's
all they can come up with!! :patriot:
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:25 PM
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2. Ooops - drinking and posting can be dangerous - causes duplicate clicking of the mouse.
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 11:26 PM by LonelyLRLiberal
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:33 PM
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17. That's the "correct" way to do it-- first, find some common ground
(if you can), then point out where there's disagreement. That's the civilized way to communicate. But then, sadly, the repugs haven't been civil in years.

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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:18 AM
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23. Being civil violates all Republican principles!!!! nt
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:37 PM
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25. It's really true-- when I looked at mcpain, I could blink and almost
see dick chainey-- it was a striking juxtaposition between mclame and Obama (the body language-- even the vibes)
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:26 PM
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3. No kidding ...

What does it say about a campaign when its greatest talking point is that your opponent agrees with you on a few things?

They got nothing ...



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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:26 PM
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4. eh, he's desperate.
lol....goes from "Obama turned the meeting into a Partisan shouting match! St John the bipartisan just listened!" into "Oooh, Obama agreed with McCain on several things!" Just like the partisan/bipartisan switcheroo at the RNC convention. I don't think it really has an effect.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:27 PM
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5. Obama reached out - McCoot reached down
Let them bring up how even handed Obama was during the debate. It only reminds us of how grouchy McCain appeared.

Obama - The bigger man in more ways than one.
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ailsagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:35 PM
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19. Absolutely. We need someone who can reach out.
And Obama has demonstrated that all along. Class, real class. We've forgotten what that is with the hijacking of our country. :(
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:27 PM
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6. I take it they're leaving out the "..but.." part of each of the agreements?
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:27 PM
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7. Instead it shows he agrees with many Americans ...
who will not vote for him and that, once elected, he will be able to work across party lines, maybe even with... Senator McCain.

If that is all they've got to spin, let them spin it like a record, baby.

I just won't listen to it.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:27 PM
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8. Obama can work in a bipartisan manner and put politics aside for the good of the people!
that's the answer!
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:28 PM
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9. They got nothing else. It was a disaster for them. nt
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blonndee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:29 PM
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10. Good point! If Obama is so wrong, why would they be promoting his point of view?
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casus belli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:29 PM
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11. If all they've got is comments taken out of context...
then that means they know they lost.


2 out of 3 independents surveyed say Obama nailed it. I'm not interested in what John McCain has to say about it.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:29 PM
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12. btw, (hubby and i recognized) a commentator pointed out it is a gentlemanly way
to argue and there was nothing wrong with that style. MOST people are more agreeable to that style. that obama would say i agree, a president needs to be prudent, BUT.... and then show the differences. he did fine on that.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:30 PM
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13. Well after losing a debate you tried to weasel out of two days ago
better try to make a big deal out of something.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:30 PM
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14. Man they got NUTHIN!
I guess they can't claim McLame won so they have to spin it like, Look, hee hee, he said "John's right!"
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:30 PM
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15. The "Country First" people are so partisan they think there's nothing at all Americans agree on?
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 11:34 PM by redqueen
Really?


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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:34 PM
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18. That's all they have....poor fuckers.
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quakerboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 11:48 PM
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20. The part I found odd
Dosn't that kinda undercut the "he's so liberal" argument?
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:11 AM
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21. yeah, they're going to use it in their campaign ads. Obama served it up for them
I understand what and why he did it, but it will come back on him...guaranteed.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:13 AM
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22. So what I see is
If Obama agrees with McCain left and right...

and McCain's favorite catchphrase is "What Obama doesn't understand is..."



Doesn't that make McCain come around to saying, "What I don't understand and am just blathering out of my ass about is..."

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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-27-08 12:20 AM
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24. They came out with a new political ad on it (link) It actually is pretty bad for McTroll

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec3aC8ZJZTc

Yes they show Obama agreeing with McTroll but then to question his leadership for AGREEING with McCain? Um' that makes you a bad leader? Not the strongest argument to say someone is wrong because they agree with you. Whoooops.
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