Senator Obama, PLEASE STOP TRYING TO APPEASE

[Fire1]

JOHN McCAIN! Bipartisanship, is one thing, but making him look more astute and credible than he actually IS, is TOTALLY UNNECESSARY!!! It furthermore, diminishes YOUR CREDIBILITY!!! THIS IS POLITICS, MAN!! YOU'RE NOT RUNNING FOR 'MR. CONGENIALITY!'
86 the 'YOU'RE RIGHT' CR%P!!!x(

[Windy]

1. its called being a statesman.... calm down.

People are making too much out of that.

[Kahuna]

5. Right. I thought Obama's demeanor was perfect. He couldn't have done better. nt

[trueblue2007]

37. I think Obama needed to be STRONGER!! He needed to be vivid and show alittle more passion.

Obama had some REAL zingers and I was totally proud of him. I wish he had been stronger on the economy and talked about the USA's awful loss of jobs~~

He needs to connect with folks who have lost jobs, lost homes.

Like they have said.....NAME THE COMPANIES WHO HAVE DONE THE THOUSANDS OF LAY-OFFS!!!!!

We feel their pain, please Senator Obama, acknowledge our people!!!!

[mscuedawg]

2. Its called Debate Tactics/Etiquette 101 eom

[RollWithIt]

3. Zip it Concerned Troll, We are all dumber for having read this

May god have mercy on your soul.

[4_Legs_Good]

4. YA-thefuck-AWN

Give me a serious break.

[percussivemadness]

6. does the phrase "give him enough rope" etc etc mean anything

[A-Schwarzenegger]

7. Fire1, Fuck off!

[blossomstar]

8. THANK YOU FOR HAVING GUTS TO SAY THIS

I have gotten some pretty tough replies for calling it like it was. Obama MISSED opportunity after opportunity to expose McCain for the creep that he is. How is the Obama campaign to know if everyone looks at Obama through a ROSE COLORED LENS? I want him to win more than anything in this world. Our country DEPENDS ON IT. He has to buck up to McCain! Nice isn't going to get it.

[democracy1st]

19. good points but if everyone doesn't know this guy is a creep after all the articles/editorials

then they have issues that Obama can't correct,right now I believe its all about Obama looking presidential

[Fire1]

21. Thanks, Blossom............I try to stay positive, but I call 'em

like I see 'em.

[jayfish]

23. Yes, Gutsy Indeed...

to put your reputations (hard earned via 700 posts)on the line. :rofl:

Jay

[blossomstar]

35. Reputation? 700 posts is funny to you?

I didn't realize that we were in a "contest" here to see who could make the most posts! Gosh, I'm just so not as important as you! The only reputation that I worry about is HONESTY. Obama (my hero by the way) totally missed a lot of opportunities tonight to put McPalin in his place.

[milkyway]

28. Less important than the words said is the personality projected. Obama came across as strong yet

reasonable--presidential--and McCain came across as a bitter old man.

[blossomstar]

32. You are so right about that.

But; Obama missed a lot of shots he could have taken with class that he so obviously has and looked even better. In order to regain our standing in the world we need to have Obama elected by a vast majority, not a slim margin. That way the rest of the world will see that we the people are not going to allow our country to be run by idiots any longer. I was just disappointed that he let so many things go by without calling McCain on his lies and was way too complimentary of McCain for me to accept. Just my humble opinion.

[milkyway]

40. I actually thought Obama spent too much time calling McCain on his lies. If all you're doing is

playing defense, your opponent has won. A lot of people hardly even know or care who said what, they just see you having to defend yourself like you're getting beat up all the time. What works best is a quick one sentence defense, then pivot to an attack or a statement of your presidential vision for the next four years.

I also agree with Matthews that Barack let too much time be dominated by a relatively small issue--earmarks--that insane McCain somehow sees as the root of all evil in this world (even though they account for less than 1% of the federal budget, and are frequently a worthwhile expenditure).

[johnnyrocket]

9. Almost like Obama is holding back, when he could CRUSH McCain...

...at any moment.

[asdjrocky]

10. Funny, all the polls are saying he won.

[rzemanfl]

11. Sorry, but I trust the next President's judgment on this. eom

[casus belli]

12. Be more Republican?

Nah. We've had enough of that Jingoistic, confrontational bullshit. Give me the gentleman.

[ClarkUSA]

13. Um, indies love that about him -- they aren't partisan bloodletters like us.

They will decide the election, too.

[blogslut]

14. Obama came off as a gentleman and a leader with that tact

Whereas, McSame came off as a mean-spirited, closed-minded shit. Now, you tell me, after 8 years of a belligerent, incurious, child with the lowest approval rating in history, who do you think the majority of the American people will vote for?

[Fire1]

16. what do you think those same people are going to

think if he keeps tellin McCain, 'he's right', over and over again! If he's SO RIGHT, then WHY THE HELL ARE YOU THERE???????????????

[blogslut]

29. Sigh

Most people are tired of drama and childish games when it comes to the leadership of our nation. I think you're exaggerating the amount of times that Senator Obama said that McSame was right. I think you wanted some bloodbath smackdown. Sorry to disappoint. I believe there's a channel for that - www.thefightnetwork.com

[kestrel91316]

15. Obama has good manners. Many Americans no longer understand

the importance of simple good manners and politeness. Obama is being himself, and he should not behave like a jerk for the sake of a few points on the debate scoreboard.

Anyone over about the age of 40 will GET what he is about and respect that. Younger people may not know what good manners ARE.

The man is showing us how truly presidential he is, how intelligent and POISED and calm under pressure. If that's not what people want in a leader, they can vote for the cranky old man.

[ailsagirl]

22. Obama epitomized grace under pressure. Beautifully.

:applause:

[NotGivingUp]

17. Obama was great....a person could look at him and the way he acted and know

that's who they would want to represent our country.

[me b zola]

18. Come here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7212913&mesg_id=7212913

[redqueen]

20. Well if you agree, you agree...

:wtf:

[Arkana]

24. Agree to a point, but you sound way too "concern troll" for me.

[Fire1]

26. I don't know who you're talking to, but if it's me,

I have that right. If you don't care to be concerned, that's YOUR right, but don't infringe on MINE!

[Rebellious Republican]

31. Fire1 I do not believe you are a troll for starters, I used the search

feature and have read many of your posts. You are, I believe, an activist that is very passionate about your convictions. Just a piece of advice from a long time DU'er, you will attract a lot more bees with honey than you will with vinegar. Kinda like what Obama is doing, you have a short amount of time and small number of posts, you also seem to have a react rather than respond quality about you. You all but called me a racist the other night in a post. Had you done what I did with you and use the search feature, type my name in the search box, you may have found out a little more about me before making such a divisive comment. If you noticed I did not react I responded, both in this post and in the post with the Redneck comment that you felt compelled the reply to. Have you bothered to check my reply to your comments in the "Redneck" thread. Probably not,calm down, a Black man has done more to win the hearts and minds of a majority of Americans than many of his Democratic party predecessors.

Just in case you are curious about my reply to your comments as well as the others on that "Redneck" thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=7174461&mesg_id=7186572

[Rebellious Republican]

41. .

:popcorn:

[Fire1]

42. Sorry it took me so long, Rebellious, I had to find the thread.

I read my response to your 'redneck' post and I don't consider it 'divisive' at all. Secondly, I didn't call you a racist, either. I simply pointed out the stereotpical reaction to the term. Honestly, I think comedians such as Jeff Foxworthy, are helping to change the term to one of endearment (btw, I love the blue collar tour). I apologize if I offended you, as that was not my intent.

[milkyway]

25. I think Obama already has your vote, but the indies hate the cat fight aspect of politics. If you

watched CNN, the response of the indies always--always--dropped significantly the moment a personal attack spilled out of McCain's mouth.

Plus, maybe the most effective debating tactic is to find an area to show agreement with your opponent, which projects you as being reasonable, before you then stick the knife into your opponent.

The reaction polls will show that Obama clearly won this debate, and the angry attack dog--the type of person Matthews and Buchanan says Obama needs to be--lost.

[Fire1]

30. For his sake, I hope you're right.....................but

'attacking' and 'appeasing' are two different animals. I still say, it is unnecessary.

[CreekDog]

27. I have a post about your advice

:hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7213025

[Pepper32]

33. When you are the giant in the room you don't need to prove it

Obama knew what he was doing.

[dawgmom]

34. Since when are civility and manners bad things?

We're supposed to be better than them. Being civil and statesmanlike is part of that, and what I want in a President. I've had enough of smirking, sarcastic a-holes like W.

[Fire1]

36. As I've said, 'attacking' and 'appeasing' are two different animals.

You can be ever so civil, cordial, polite ALL THOSE GOOD THINGS, without trying to APPEASE.

[kenny blankenship]

38. If it works to ingratiate him w an audience that may not already feel they know him

and helps gets him elected... will you stop shouting?

[RoyGBiv]

39. Stop shouting.

It's annoying.