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Cosmic Charlie Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:33 PM
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After polls, CNN has changed it's tune....OBAMA WINS!!!
These talking heads blow with the wind, but they are damn sure to respect popular opinion.]

This will be the story tomorrow, Obama won.

Enjoy, ladies and gents, our boy done good!
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:34 PM
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1. This thing is in the bag. It's BEEN in the bag!
This CLEARLY shows what a LIE the media is engaging in, making this thing look close!
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:36 PM
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2. Oh c'mon, it's been pretty close until now.
It shouldn't be, and maybe the polls are all drastically underestimating Obama's support, but until recently, McCain has been hanging in there.

But not for much longer.
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msallied Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:37 PM
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3. Hanging in there according to whom or what, exactly?
The polls? The media? Puhleeze.
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:55 PM
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8. How much is visual?
Remember that the experts thought Nixon won the debate against Kennedy. But Nixon's 5:00 shadow versus Kennedy's youthful good looks turned the tables. I just heard the debate on the radio and it didn't seem so decisive. I'm thinking that for many people, this was the first time they had a chance to absorb the atmospherics. The visual difference is unmistakable. Not to be ageist, but McCain is a very old man who may not make it too much longer. America has been through a whole lot of trauma with 911, 2 wars, and now all this financial mess. Maybe the idea of having to bury a sitting President (even ignoring that he would be replaced by Palin) started to hit home with people.

And having them on the stage together, I'm sure Obama carried himself with the most dignified and competent air. Not that McCain didn't, but maybe tonight Obama crossed a threshold of viability for people who hadn't really given it they most serious thought heretofore.

Just speculatin'
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:38 PM
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4. They changed their minds from Internet polls?
What kind of a professional news organization does that, I mean there's nothing stopping someone from voting like 100 times in an Internet poll usually (including the CNN one).

Now if a focus group of undecided voters they got together before the debate says Obama won, then that makes sense.

Right now though, I really think that McCain won the debate unfortunately.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:40 PM
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5. CNN carried out a scientific Opinion Research poll of almost 600 voters right after the debate.
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 10:41 PM by ClarkUSA
Obama won by double digits. He also won by double digits over McCain in CBS' post-debate scientific poll.
Oh, and while speaking to Howard Fineman, KO mentioned an NBC poll where Obama beat McCain by double digits.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:46 PM
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6. McCain did not win
Subjective responses as to who won depend entirely on what the voter wants in a candidate. I heard the criticism made early that Obama should have leaned forward more assertively to confront McCain. I personally thought Obama's poise and demeanor was extremely attractive for a Presidential potential, while McCain's demeanor was an imitation of the Bush* cowboy pose. I am so sick of that.

I want a person who is sophisticated, poised and has an overabundance of control. I think there is an element within this society that wants the aggressive, hostile street-fighter type. And those who viewed the debate looking for that would say McCain won. So I believe the definition of a "win" is not necessary a factual computation, but the realization of a subjective preference. The only definitive way of judging will be the numbers that come rolling in election night (oops, but even that is highly questionable!).

Sam
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MindMatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:58 PM
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10. I'm with you, man (er, I mean Ma'am - well, you know what I mean)
I'm one who has been craving to see Obama lay the heavy wood on McCain. But this man has been brilliant in his patience and that really inspires confidence. America wants a thoughtful President now.
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Cosmic Charlie Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:49 PM
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7. that's because you're a shadow of a Liberal
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:56 PM
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9. I think they were just covering their asses saying it was tied
until the polls come in
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