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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:12 PM
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I'll be honest: I found the debate sucked; but I think it's STRATEGY!!
Edited on Fri Sep-26-08 10:25 PM by vaberella
Maybe I was into it for the potential drama of "No McCain." Or I was interested in McCain doing something ridiculous and the debate basically ending on that note.

I mainly left the debate with annoyance not because I think Obama was weak, far from it. I just felt Obama was a bit too relaxed at times. I like the fact he's an easy going guy but I wanted him to be really hard hitting. Like getting McCain on the stupidity of the Korean count...I don't know where that came from. To stress the statement made by Kissinger so McCain could dump that nonsense of, "I've known him for 35 years." To attack on the torture bit. I think Obama was able to defend himself well and attack even better.

But McCain was able to take up the air time and even interrupt Obama. Obama seemed way too polite, which is his nature---but give me a break. McCain was drilling on and on and I felt at some points Obama needed to interrupt and really make McCain uncomfortable with the hard hitting facts. At times he did that, with mentioning the oil company bills, the energy bills and financial and war bills.

However, I hope in the next debate Obama takes the bull by the horns and dumps it...

On a side note...I got the feeling this was strategy. I got the feeling that Obama was softer than I expected because he was feeling him out. I felt that a lot of things were to test out McCain and see what makes him tick and also how he would approach the debate on the matter. I also think Obama's camp is listening to all the commentators and will be looking at the video, past videos, and in the final debate Obama will completely and utterly smash McCain to smitherines.

Updated I would just like to state that after reading another board where it was mentioned that if Obama became more aggressive he would appear to independents and others as beating up on an old man. I have to agree with this. We saw this with the McCain camp games. So I want to ammend my statement on disappointment to understanding the entire thing was either TACTIC or STRATEGY!!.
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:13 PM
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1. No, it's TACTICS
This is what you just don't understand .....
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:22 PM
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7. Hahahah!! n/t
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:14 PM
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2. for your last paragraph alone, I give you a hearty kick.
:kick:
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holiday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:16 PM
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4. Well also we don't want him to win the first debate in a landslide
because then that sets up the expectations so high! He has more debates, I think he took the right approach. There was only a few things I think he messed up on but McCain messed up on ALOT

I feel for Obama because McCain was lieing. He should've said "Hey I have no problem debating but you have to debate with facts and truth"
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:14 PM
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3. The voters don't know him
and you don't want their first introduction being Obama attacking the old white POW. Besides, the cooler Obama looks, the more erratic McCain looks and that fits the narrative.
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blossomstar Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:17 PM
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5. I am so very disappointed in Obama
McCain should have been slaughtered in that debate. EVERYTHING that is happening can be traced to McCain in one way or another. Where were the comebacks from Obama? He let McCain get away with lie after lie and just smiled about it! WTF is wrong with OBAMA? We need a president who appears STRONG and AGRESSIVE. Obama was PASSIVE and weak sounding and studdered way too many times. THE TRUTH HURTS and it is KILLING ME, but there it is. McCain won that debate hands down and Obama better BUCK UP or we are going to lose by a LANDSLIDE. Obama's smiling was out of place.
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:23 PM
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8. Sorry. I think you're wrong.
The moment Obama goes after McCain, it becomes McCain's show. It's not a bickering contest. They're presenting themselves to America and making a case on why they're the better choice. McCain lost easily. Sorry you can't see that.
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blossomstar Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:28 PM
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10. I sincerely hope that you are right and I am wrong.
But, I don't think so. I am so upset that I am shaking. It's like watching John Kerry be NICE all over again.
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penndragon69 Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:18 PM
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6. Obama tried to lite mclame ducks fuse.
I could only laugh at all the snorts, snits and guffaws coming from Mclames mike.

You could tell Mc dipshit was biting his tongue trying hard to keep his temper under control.

A little more and he might have stroked out right on stage!
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-08 10:24 PM
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9. While I wanted Obama to utterly smash McCain to smithereens. I was disappointed that he refused to ...
KICK McSame IN THE TEETH.

When McCranky old man said he "Supported the troops"
Why didn't Obama say "You voted against increasing their pay"
"You voted against funding their education"
"You voted against funding the VA"

Barack had many opportunities to say that McSame does not understand is that his votes have consequences.
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