Which debate was MSNBC pundits watching? They said McCain won!!!!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

I think Obama did well on the economy!

[book_worm]

1. Not all of them are saying that. And Tweety is wondering if McCain's demeanor will

ultimately hurt him.

[Orrex]

24. Can you clarify that?

I have my own thoughts to that effect, but I'd like to hear what Tweety had to say.

[iconicgnom]

29. tweety isn't called "tweety" for nothin, and it isn't entirely his hair.

If tweety were a dog, he'd be sniffing every butt and humping every leg.

That sounds so bad! What I mean is that tweety gets enthused by very ephemeral phenomena, and really doesn't have that much depth. But he's very good at what he does! I enjoy clips from his show.

[HughMoran]

2. Not really a strong endorsement of McCain

It was kind of a wishy-washy opinion

[ck4829]

3. Infuriating but not unexpected.

Obama ran circles around McCain, the media needs to recognize that.

[1corona4u]

13. I agree!!!!

[SemiCharmedQuark]

4. Who specifically is saying that? Because I'm not shocked if it's Gregory and Buchannan.

[rufus dog]

9. too funny!

Yeah it is all the usual suspects

[Frisbee]

5. Keith and Rachels should be included in the discussions!

[quakerboy]

21. no joke

where the f are they?

[ck4829]

6. Duplicate

[Ichingcarpenter]

7. David Gregory and Pat ..... Keith comes on in 14 minutes

Don't worry about it.

[Sparkly]

8. Unbelievable.

Seemed to me on style, substance, and everything else, Obama wiped the floor with McCain!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

16. Obama won the debate

[silverojo]

30. "I agree! I agree! I agree!"

That's not winning a debate. That's showing the world you don't know how to debate.

God, I hope Obama is a quick learner, or this country is screwed.

[Baltoman991]

10. You're really

not surprised are you?

We should have all seen it coming. McCain could have hollered Fuck you Obama all night long and they would have said he won.

[Hamlette]

11. only Buchanan....the jerk, Tweety brought up McCain's dismissive rudeness toward Obama

and thought it might hurt him in the end.

And everyone agreed Obama won it on the economy.

[Dinger]

12. We. Know. Better.

.

[Robbins]

14. Debate

Mccain often didn't respond to Obama's attacks.I call this a win for Obama.

[ErinBerin84]

15. I turned it on for a second

Buchanan said that Obama "did what he needed to do" and "showed he could counterpunch McCain". Turned it off after that....I'll take that from Pat, I guess. Of course he thinks McCain would have won, he loves that "most liberal voting record" shit.

[seabeyond]

17. cnn said it was a draw. n/t

[xiamiam]

18. well their viewers have a different response..obama 74%+..nt

[Rosa Luxemburg]

19. Good!

[nc4bo]

20. MSM is pulling out all the stops tonight. nt

[Sebastian Doyle]

22. Pat Buchanan just can't bring himself to face the reality

You know.... the thought that one of "them" might be President.

[gatorboy]

23. He got bonus points for not nodding off.

But he was in full "GET OFF MY LAWN!" mode.

[Sebastian Doyle]

delete

**hiccup**

[LooseWilly]

25. Apparently there are rules for scoring debates

... that don't involve seeming thoughtful. From what they were saying, the fact that McCain said Obama was naive more than Obama said it about McCain, and the fact that Obama was honest enough to agree with McCain on obvious points, while McCain never admitted it, but rather re-phrased the same thing in terms of his own talking points... is points. Obama's capability to discuss issues in McCain's terms, while McCain was, of course, unwilling to ever use Obama's words.. no matter how retarded he might seem to be saying the same thing again.

In other words, the scoring scale is geared toward the debater's ability to sway the mouth breathers who aren't capable of following two sentences in a row...

Hard to remember that dumbness wins points.

[LooseWilly]

26. Now they're extolling the virtues of McCain repetition

of the talking points. No matter whether they were relevant or not...

[Oak2004]

27. Hint:11:00

I turned to PBS when MC Rove Gregory came on, and I'm not going back to MSNBC until Olbermann comes on at 11.

If you watch the right wing spew on msnbc, they'll be stupid enough to think they can keep an audience while giving us more such spew.

[Arkana]

28. Andrea Mitchell thinks that while Obama was not real combative

he showed a wonderful grasp of the nuts & bolts of foreign policy.