McCain a GOP insider for Kerry?

[GmoneyOwnsAll]

I know a lot of people think McCain is just sucking up to Bush so he can replace Cheney or Rumsfeld if Bush wins. But I think it goes deeper than that. I believe McCain was truly hurt by what the Bush camp did to him in 2000. We all know Kerry and McCain are good friends and worked together a lot in the senate. Maybe, just maybe McCain is playing Bush like a heart from hell. I saw the other morning McCain on some talk show I dont remember what it was called, I dont pay attention to those. But he said he talked to Kerry the day before. The interviewer asked what they talked about and McCain kinda shrugged it off by saying "You know, how you doing stuff like that." and laughed. I may sound like a conspiracy theorist but I believe McCain is just an insider for Kerry. Kerry probably has a spot waiting for him in his cabinet. I mean if I was a 68 year old man and someone totally trashed my wife, my daughter and my war record. I'd do the same.

[UpsideDownFlag]

1. intriguing. the only problem is that he isn't just loyal to bush, he's

loyal to the republican party. i think he enjoys being the most popular pubby in the country, and doesnt wanna jeopardize that.

[Rosco T.]

13. McCain is loyal the the REPUBLICAN party.. not the NEO-CONS..

big difference. It's not outside the realm of possibility that he is

- a mole for Kerry, giving him heads up, keeping the pressure on Shrub in certain areas, co-ordinating various 'events' to make Shrub look bad (ie. asking Kerry to pull an ad so it give Kerry 'intregity')

OR

- looking out for himself. He KNOWS that Shrub is toast, but he's setting himself up to be the new leader of the 'reborn' (not born-again) Republican party when the neo-cons take it on the chin.

[Tim_in_HK]

Uhh, no. n/t

[WI_DEM]

2. What will it take to convince people here that McCain is the enemy?

He is a very right wing politician, is against choice, supports Bush and his war 150% and has been working tirelessly for the chimp. He even downplays his "friendship" with Kerry.

[GmoneyOwnsAll]

8. Ever thought maybe thats what he wants you to think?

It goes hand in hand in playing Bush like a heart from hell.

[WI_DEM]

9. no it hasn't

and if that is what he was doing he sure didn't do much to prevent the Swift Boat attacks on Kerry.

[Morning Dew]

11. that's right - he's been downplaying it.

McCain has been saying that he and Kerry are friends in the sense that they've worked together in the Senate. He emphasizes that they are not social friends.

[EST]

20. You be right.

He publicly disavowed his "friendship" with Kerry, suggesting that they did share a few common interests, had traveled together, but his eager endorsement and defense of the douche was so effective and did entirely too much damage ever to back away from.

[Worst Username Ever]

3. If McCain suddenly and fiercely turned against bush

a month before the election, I would shit my pants with joy. Alas, neither will happen.

[kwolf68]

4. Doubt it

His rah-rah speech for AWOL Monday night sealed it for me. While he was very conciliatory toward Kerry and Democrats in general, his whoring for Bush was extreme.

I also HATE HATE FUCKING HATE patronizing bullshit like, “Well I admire the convictions of those on the other side…they have noble sounding goals…but bla bla bla…war, bomb, courage, hero”….He pulled that ole’ Nixon card out and it pissed me off.

NO… the only way he can gain favor in my eyes is to renounce support for Bush, but since he probably knows Bush is going down he is positioning himself for a run v. Kerry in 2008 if he can get past the 700 Club…at which point they will AGAIN harpoon him…I expect John McCain to be Democrat in 2011.

[MrBenchley]

5. He sure derailed the first night

by mentioning Michael Moore....if Junior Flyboy and the GOP can't defeat a flabby independent filmmaker, how are they going to defeat Osama?

[JI7]

6. no, he is just a Republican

doing what a Republican would do. although i don't think he would have a problem if bush lost.

i imagine he will endorse chuck hagel in the republican primary in 2008 and he needs to stay on the good side of the party to be of help to him then.

[Blayde Starrfyre]

7. I lost a lot of respect for McCain

I don't think he's an insider. I think he is, in a non-racial sense, and I can't think of any expression other than this, an "Uncle Tom," in the sense that he's step 'n fetchin' it and saying "yes sir" to a guy who so thoroughly abused him. He put his own place in the party ahead of his wife and child, and that's contemptable.

[Catfight]

10. McCain means the same as Benedict to me. They are interchangable names.

[Pachamama]

15. No, the name Zell Miller means Benedict - McCain means Mata Hari

He's a Double Agent if anything....I still think they have sh*t on him and that's why he does as they ask....

[Catfight]

I stand corrected.

[Catfight]

17. I stand corrected.

[Pachamama]

12. That would be great - wouldn't it?

Yeah, maybe its wishful thinking, but I think they have some kind of dirt still on McCain and they "keep him in line with the Party of the GOP"....

[KT2000]

14. What is the deal?

McCain could not be more explicit concerning his supprt for Bush. Why do these ideas keep popping up?? And who cares what that ass McCain is up to?

It appears that McCain will continue to suck up to the jerk who denigrated and ridiculed him and his family. Who even wants him?

[in_cog_ni_to]

16. No.

McCain....a GOP LYING SACK OF SHIT! A TWO-FACED SOB!

back in 2000 McCain didn't find it important enough to do anything about the chimp slandering his family. NOTHING. He just kept on campaigning. I would have beaten the living shit out of the guy for what he did. Not McCain. Politics is more importatnt than defending his wife and daughter.

I use to respect McCain. Not anymore. he's on my shitlist....forever.

[neomonkey]

18. I think that is monumentally wishful thinking

McCain is NOT on our side, he's had the Kool-Aid, he never will be on our side, don't be lulled by this kindly bi-partisan aura.

[SidDithers]

19. His interview with Lehrer, Shields and Brooks on Monday was interesting...

He was asked about his relationships with both Bush and Kerry. While he described his relationship with Bush as "comfortable", and it was like pulling teeth to get him to describe it this way. When asked about Kerry, he immediately and positively replied that he and Kerry were "very good friends", but they don't socialize because "Washington isn't that type of town"

I'm not defending McCain, but I thought the difference in the way he answered the questions was significant.

Sid

[EST]

21. The sunnier side of me wishes your argument to be

waterproof. The pragmatic, cynical side says just the opposite. The more this thing develops, the cloudier.

[Rosco T.]

24. POINT: If he WERE a MOLE for Kerry, he would have to publicly..

.. cosey up to Shrub.

wouldn't he?

(just being devils advocate)

[seabeyond]

22. we may draw line at bashing service, wife and child

i sugget though, mccain is made of a different clothe. let me see, what did he say about chelsey when she was like 12

the reason she is so ugly is her parents are hillary and janet reno?

[wiggs]

23. Lots of his "friends" have sold their souls

McCain, Schwartzenagger, and Dole all respect Kerry and are good friends of his. That doesn't keep them from selling Kerry and the American people out for power and position in their party.

Others, but not many, have done what is right. Rassman is a republican who stood up for honesty. Hagel has defended Kerry against claims that Kerry is weak on defense.

[jeff_thompson]

25. I wish!

Sadly, I think he is being quite open about himself. It is astonishing, considering what Bush and Rove have done to him. I understand that his IS a Republican, but he could have simply stayed home and said nothing. But no, he chose to stand up and fight for the Bushes. After Monday, he lost any chance of EVER receiving my vote. In fact, after this political season, the Republican party will never, ever, receive a vote from me. Thank God we didn't get this guy for VP.

[EST]

26. You are absolutely correct.

This man, this...has been, had it totally within his grasp, right then, right THERE, to be a hero, to almost single-handedly save this country! He could have stood up and proclaimed to the nation that he had had it with the slimy, lying tricks of the thug party, that this administration was a total fraud, that Bush was a slithery failure, that this country was more important than the temporary job of a washed up, 68 year old politician, trying to keep his post for a little longer. America would have taken him to it's bosom, or at least the vast majority would have, and he could have fired the opening salvo in the war against the creeping fascism that is threatening all of us. He is just another of the brain dead, power crazed dip shits that have no real values other than more and more accretion to the over-compensated fat-asses who are now the christian taliban eating our America.

Rant, rant, rant. He should be prosecuted for treason and grand theft just like the rest of those maggots who will be out of favor after this election. Piss in his pocket. He deserves no more thoughtfulness and circumstance consideration that we weak kneed marshmallow spined believers in the better nature of these soulless roaches have blessed him with for far too long. Whew! D'ya think I oughta quit hinting around and really say what I mean? Forget him-he ain't worth it!