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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:25 PM
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Anyone else nervous about Pennsylvania and Michigan?
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 02:26 PM by Unsane
Obama is surging lately, but poll numbers seem to indicate a deadlock in states like Michigan and Pennsylvania. Both with Dem governors and senators (save Specter), and poor economies, you'd think a Dem would run away with these states. Minnesota seems to have tightened recently too. Anyone else concerned? (no I'm not being a 'concern troll')

Though Obama may be running away in places like NM or CO, he simply has to win PA and MI in order to hit 270. I read yesterday he's only spent $10,000 advertising in MN. That seems pretty dumb. He's also rarely visited Michigan. Do his internals show him comfortably ahead, or is he waiting until later to hit these states?
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:34 PM
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1. I'm not worried.
Did you see how McCain was greeted at that auto plant? And I've seen plenty of polls with Obama ahead in those states. Things are trending his way, and will continue to do so right up to election day.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:36 PM
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3. Hopefully
Electoral vote.com has mccain up too
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TheCoxwain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:35 PM
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2. YAAAAAWWWWWWWWNNN
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:36 PM
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4. be patient see what the polls next week show
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Obamarulz11 Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:36 PM
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5. I was until yesterday at the auto plant.
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MarjorieG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:39 PM
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6. He's running against the media and a war hero with experience.
The debates will be excused by McCain's allies, but we'll have time to bring out whatever considerable guns and testimonies we have.

If they don't steal it, I think we're looking good.
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Marsala Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:41 PM
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7. One poll showed Iowa tied. State polls are crap.
Seriously, they are full of outliers and incredible variations. Virginia has been +9 McCain and +2 Obama on alternating days. Ohio is all over the place.
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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:41 PM
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8. I'm not worried at the moment
Not only is public sentiment moving our way but McCain's increasingly irrational behavior is getting play. Moreover, the Palin bounce has eroded, and, frankly, the campaign's fundamentals are strong gaffe is huge. Polling in the last 82 hours has shown this change, and I expect you'll see a lot of these states that go back and forth start coming back strongly to the Democratic fold.

Incidentally, I don't think we have to win Pennsylvania, but I see no reason to leave it to chance.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:41 PM
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9. Nope, friendo.
Similarly, I'm not hopeful for Florida or Indiana.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:41 PM
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10. Anyone else worried about getting hit by a bus?
I am worried. It keeps me up at night. Anyone else?
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:43 PM
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11. There is a month and a half left
It is too soon to be nervous or confident about swing states. I want to see the polls on 11/03 to have any fear or optimism about these states.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:44 PM
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12. Don't be nervous about any polls........watch them...but don't be nervous.....instead....
Be nervous, be very nervous about people being foreclosed and being cut off the voting lists.....and other such efforts depriving citizens of their right to vote.

Check your own registration. Make sure you are registered and do so before the registration deadline comes up - usually 30 days in most states.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:44 PM
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13. Say what you will about Rendell, but he'll be sure to deliver PA
to Obama. By hook or by crook.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:48 PM
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16. Rendall and the great people of the SEIU in Philadelphia
those people are election day workhorses - and they have no problems going to parts of the city that non-Philly volunteers might not want to go.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:46 PM
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14. relax.........we have huge new voter registrations in each state, so it should be okay
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:47 PM
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15. I have no worries about Pennsylvania
These polls are going after the 'likely voter' ignoring numbers from the newly registered and those who might have missed an election or 2 the past couple of years.

Philadelphia and Pittsburgh will bring Pennsylvania home. We once got 55% voter turnout in Philadelphia when Ed Rendell ran against Bob Casey Jr in the Democratic primaries back in 2002. If we can get thsoe numbers on election day the rest of the state won't matter as long as Obama can stay within 10%
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:48 PM
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17. Nope. Obama WILL win PA; it is NOT a toss-up as the media asserts.
He'll have a harder time in MI but it's not impossible.

I don't understand OH, though. The worst of economies across the country and yet its citizens cannot bring themselves to vote for a black man.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:49 PM
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18. Donating Calms the Nerves ===>
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:49 PM
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19. No
Because states don't vote in isolation...If he's moving up nationallly he's probably moving up everywhere....

And if he was losing Pennsylvania and Michigan he would be on his way to being blown out but he isn't losing those two states...
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:50 PM
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20. Na.
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