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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:23 PM
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Obama has been talking his heart out about the economy; so why aren't people getting it?
I saw a poll today that suggested that Americans feel that neither candidate has the upper hand on the economy! WHAT?!?!?? I don't understand that. For weeks and weeks...even months, Obama has been hammering away at this issue and laying out concrete plans for the economy. So why are these polls still showing that he's making no traction on the economy?

This is extremely frustrating for me.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:24 PM
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1. the media
loves to censor Obama and create fake neutrality by claiming "Well, neither candidate has really seized on this issue...and NEITHER have presented a plan."
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:24 PM
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2. I saw a poll today
that said the avocado should be the national fruit. I payed it no mind.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:24 PM
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3. Because the media fails daily.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:25 PM
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4. If the media doesn't show it or cover it how do they know it happened?

They only cover Palin/McCain
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:26 PM
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5. anyone who is listening will know that they have a plan for the
economy, it is the other side who doesn't.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:27 PM
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6. The media keeps asking why isn't he connecting and what does he need
to do.. instead of just showing an event everyday like they do for McCain/palin...
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:27 PM
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7. I also vote for the media. Obama is not getting the coverage. n/t
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:28 PM
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8. I saw a poll (at least one - can't remember where) in which Obama was
spanking McCain -- hard!

I can't believe that the poll you saw was accurately reflective of how Americans feel.


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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:28 PM
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9. I saw a poll that had Obama way up regarding the economy
Polls are like...
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:30 PM
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10. McCain lies about the economy, lies about Obama wanting to increase taxes
And the media doesn't mention that they're lies. I sure wish some 527 group would run something on the Keating 5 scandal.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:31 PM
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11. They ARE getting it... that is why Obama moved from 5 down to 4 up in Gallup in one week.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:34 PM
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12. His message is getting diffused by distractions.
We are all a little to blame, but it's also the media's fault, and McCain's strategy.

Everyone focuses on a different issue every week. We keep talking about Palin, or her husband, or the baby, or McCain's health, or Alzheimers, or Spain-gate, or a dozen other issues that aren't going to stick with people. The focus is off Obama's economic message too often, and even when the focus is on the economy, we get so caught up in what BushCo did wrong and what McCain is likely to do wrong that we don't talk about what Obama needs to do right.

Clinton had the slogan "It's the economy, stupid," everywhere during his campaign. Every time a new issue came up, they steered it back to the economy and what Clinton would do to fix it. When the media got so caught up in the personal attacks on Clinton that they wouldn't cover his economic strategy, he refused to speak to the press, and instead went on Donahue and MTV to take his message straight to the general public. That way, everything people heard about Clinton was what he wanted them to hear.

He still had to handle the scandals and nonsense, but he did that through fax machines and phone call by his aides to the media. Every time a negative story broke, he flooded the media with his rebuttal and counterattack, so that by the time most people heard about the scandals, they heard Clinton's counter-attack, too.

Obama stays on message well, but he isn't effective at forcing the media to stay on message. We hurt him, with out constant crap about McCain and Palin. Democrats never win elections by trashing the other guy--it's just not what we are good at, nor is it what people find appealing in us. We win by staying on message and promoting our economic policies. None of Obama's supporters are doing that. McCain is controlling the message just be letting himself and his VP become the object of our attacks. It puts the cameras on him, gives him a chance to make tough statements, and makes everyone forget about Obama's message. That's part of how Bush won, too.
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