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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:09 PM
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The Republican Party is in A Complete Panic Meltdown
Edited on Wed Sep-17-08 07:10 PM by berni_mccoy
I watched this video http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x192324 and noticed that Chris Matthews has picked up on something many of us DUers have noticed for a while now: The Republicans Are Running From Their Party. Matthews noted that they have a hard time even saying Republican and they have no defense of their party. I too have noticed this. If you look at their ads, they attack Bush as much as Democrats have been for the last 7 years. For example, John Sununu has just put out an ad the claims he's a Washington Outsider who has consistently attacked Bush policy and brought Bush under control. I know, I let out a laugh when I first saw this ad. I have sent letter after letter to Senator Sununu (he's my senator after all) urging him to vote against the War, urging him to hold Bush accountable, urging him to support the environment and stem cell research. He has returned letter after letter with responses bathed in Right-Wing talking points. And he's just like the rest of the Republicans.

The problem is, they've been at War with the Democratic Party for the last 8 years, even when Democrats have tried to make peace with them. They've had their way and they shoved it down America's throat. They deregulated energy (Enron), they've deregulated the safeguards on the environment, they've deregulated companies from shipping jobs overseas going so far as to reward them with wealthy tax incentives to do so. The only people they've regulated are American citizens. They've taken away our Constitutional Rights, they've made it impossible for a citizen to get bankruptcy protection (as individuals, we now are forced to pay off any credit debts we have, no matter how long, and our homes are not safe from liquidation). They've made it harder and harder for individual citizens to vote (that is, unless you are a Republican). They believe in regulation alright, but only when it regulates individuals into sheep or when it saves their rich buddies companies from bankruptcy.

And now, when America has woken up and taken back enough power and won enough governorships in states in 2006 to make it more difficult for them to cheat their way out of this election, they realize they are on the wrong side of change. Change is coming alright, but it won't be good for the Republicans and they know it. Their only defense? To pretend like they were innocent bystanders or, laughably, were railing against the Bush Administration and Republicans all along. Nice try, but it isn't going to save them. For that to work, they are assuming that Americans are completely unaware of their situation now and where they were when the Republicans took power. There are just far too many Americans who have woken up. And we know that's true because the desperate attempt at the Republicans to appear as not Republicans.

But Americans Remember.

We Remember Republicans Singlehandedly Lost the War On Terror.
We Remember Republicans Singlehandedly Got Us Into Iraq.
We Remember Republicans Singlehandedly have allowed our great infrastructure to deteriorate into despotism that abandons the poor in wakes of disasters like Katrina.
We Remember Republicans Singlehandedly denied Americans better opportunities for Healthcare.
We Remember Republicans Singlehandedly fought increasing the Minimum Wage so that workers could afford to LIVE.
We Remember Republicans Singlehandedly got us into our current mortgage Crisis by allowing Banks to issue predatory loans.
We Remember Republicans Singlehandedly got us into our current economic Crisis by Feeding the Greed Of Wall Street.
We Remember Republicans Singlehandedly blocked attempts to work on Global Climate Change and denied its very existence in the face of science.
We Remember Republicans Singlehandedly got us into our Constitutional Crisis by turning a blind eye to Bush's power grab and then legalizing his crimes.

Yes, Republicans. America Remembers all too well what you have done to our country. And try as you might, Republicans, you cannot escape your legacy. In your panic meltdown, you can keep Bush away from your convention, forcing him to do a telecast. You can not use your party's name in the hopes America won't remember what you did. And even though the media might try to help you by replacing the (R) with a (D) by your name, Americans know who you are. As John McCain says, you have been made famous and we all know your names.

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joshuasampson Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:10 PM
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1. Judging by today's polls, I understand why they panic
McCain up in NC by only 1% and losing big in New Mexico, plus tied in Florida per CNN. It doesn't get worse than that.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:13 PM
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3. Don't believe it.
It'll get "worse" than that.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:19 PM
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10. I think Obama is up by 2 in OH in that poll as well...
Teeheehee McDouchebagg.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 08:28 PM
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18. If so, then Republicans are truly in trouble.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:58 PM
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24. I pointed this out elsewhere: I've noticed the oddest thing
In every town, there are vacant lots on which political signage turns up en masse. I've noted here in Omaha that the Republican vacant lots have signs for Lee Terry (Congress) Mike Johanns (Senate) but not McSame/Barbie.
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RNdaSilva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:54 AM
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41. Bump
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offog Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:18 PM
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119. I sure hope you're right!
I'm still biting my fingernails. The polling results are too close to call right now. Lately, the plurality seems to be less than the margin of error. And I'm not sure the opinion poll results will be reflected in the popular vote, what with all that vote suppression and those unreliable voting machines. So don't get too confident, eh?

A week or so back I saw an interesting post on a DU discussion thread. Someone proposed making October 1 NATIONAL MAKE SURE I CAN VOTE DAY. I think that's a damn fine idea. Everybody check on your voter registration status, find out about i.d. requirements, and help people do what's necessary to be eligible to vote.

Best wishes!
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Pete2069 Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:27 AM
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56. One problem about Obama being up 2 points
The republicans control the voting machine and who they will
allow to vote.  
The democrats just do not have the ability to combat deceit
and corruption at the polls... 
How much of this stealing of votes from the democrats do you
believe would happen if it was against the republicans.
Bush and the republicans would call marshal law..
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jamesatemple Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:30 AM
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60. Well, there's one thing we can do, Pete!
We can make sure that, if the Republicans steal or deny 100,000 votes or any other number, they'll still be short by a half-million. I reckon that you could steal several shiploads of water from a tsunami without puttin' a dent in it.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:44 PM
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111. It's 'martial' law but other than that I agree with you
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 05:45 PM by truedelphi
Thsoe that count the votes hae the power. And the people who count the votes are your local County Registrar of Voters and your Secretary of State on the state level. Most of these scumbags are Repukes, though often enough they call themselves "Democrats" Or "Independents"

One exception is Debra Bowen, Sec of State here in California
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:33 PM
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95. none of those numbers are close enough to prevent theft. nt
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:43 PM
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101. Theft is their only means of winning but the American voter knows this
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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:13 PM
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2. Beautifully said. My fave: " The only people they've regulated are American citizens"
Regulate Big Corporations, NOT Citizens. That should be our motto.

Thank you for an outstanding post!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:13 PM
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4. K&R!!!
:dem:
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:14 PM
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5. off to the Greatest with you and pronto - I like the "We Remember" lineup especially
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PetrusMonsFormicarum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:17 PM
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6. Bumper stickers a microcosm
Democrats are proud to put Obama stickers on their vehicles. McCain/Palin stickers are almost nonexistent, as if even those hardcore Republicans are embarrassed to acknowledge who they're going to vote for.

Polls be damned, the only poll that matters is the election, and I think that a lot of folks who describe themselves in public polls as conservative Republicans are going to be reaching for the lever marked Obama/Biden.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:27 AM
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55. I've noticed that, too
where I live, every SUV had a "W" sticker on it 8 years ago. Many sported them 4 years ago.

Now?

Lots of Obama stickers on cars, but the SUVs are naked. Most aren't even sporting their Chinese-made "yellow ribbon" magnets anymore.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:35 AM
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61. I suspect that at least some of those Republicans will be voting Ron Paul.
Which also helps Obama.
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sop Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:31 PM
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77. What's really telling are the number of peeled-off oval "W04" stickers
Remember those? They used to sit right next to the "support out troops" ribbon, as if to imply not supporting Bush meant one did not support the troops. Those little oval stickers aren't so prominent these days, are they?

As you drive down the highway you can still see car bumpers with telltale empty spots, now covered with that gummy residue you just can't remove, where once the little "W04" sticker was proudly and defiantly displayed. The stickers kind of ruined the finish on the bumper so they'll never be able to buff it out or remove the damage....sort of what Bush did this country.
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madwivoter Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:02 PM
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85. I ride my bike to/from work through an upscale neighborhood...
A week ago, the only sign I saw was an Impeach Bush & Cheney yard sign. Yesterday, I counted 8 Obama signs (this is about a 3 block section of the neighborhood) and 1 McCain sign. In fact, there was only 7 yesterday on my ride home, 8 this morning on my ride in. :)
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ComtesseDeSpair Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:16 PM
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94. My GF and I were just talking about this the other day...
About how we have yet to see one single McCain sticker in this election season. We live in Chicago, so it's not like we would expect to see a lot of them anyway, but back in 2004, you saw Bush stickers frequently (usually on Hummers and SUVs) in town. And you also saw Bush placards in windows here and there. This year: not one single placard or sticker have we seen. I get the feeling that McCain is to the Rethugs what Kerry was to the Dems (ie. "He's a douchebag but I'm voting for him anyway") and even the people who will vote for him can't work up the enthusiasm to advertise that fact.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:40 PM
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96. I won't put a sticker on my car.
I know my car would get defaced in the parking garage. I don't trust pubs.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:40 PM
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97. I won't put a sticker on my car.
I know my car would get defaced in the parking garage. I don't trust pubs.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 04:04 PM
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105. Or make you a target for an over zealous cop who happens to be a rwinger.
Just say'n.....
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PunkPop Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:40 PM
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100. I hope so
but don't try to predict what a repub will do because you're not dealing with rational, thoughtful human beings. You're dealing with selfish, bitter, bigoted people. They are so saturated with rightwing propaganda they will vote repub because the other choice would be giving their vote to a liberal, America-hating muslim.

Did I mention they're also not too bright?
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LonelyLRLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:49 PM
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103. I actively watch the bumper stickers here in Little Rock - Obama is WAY out front.
There was one ridiculous and ignorant Palin yard sign in someone's yard - I can't remember what it said - but basically supported Palin as if she were on the top of the ticket.
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:49 PM
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112. I've seen exactly 2 McSame yard signs in my neck of the woods,
one McSame bumpersticker, and just this morning saw a "Palin Power" bumpersticker on a big obnoxious new Chevy Escalade. (Almost threw up over that one.)

Other than that, it's OBAMA MANIA around here. (Chester County, PA)
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:17 PM
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7. I Love the Part . . .

. . . about Little Sununu bragging about how many times he took a brave stand against Little Bush. Ludicrous and totally laughable. Thanks. :-)
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:17 PM
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8. Excellent, excellent! One of the better posts I've seen in a while. You ROCK, man.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:17 PM
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9. I am amazed Tweety has changed his tune.
So to speak.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:11 PM
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20. Don't worry. He'll go overboard the other way tomorrow.
He always does this. That's why I can't stand the guy. He flips more than flapjacks. He makes me sick. He gives me hope one day, and then the next I want to break my tv screen when he's on.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:49 PM
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29. Schizo Boy can drive a person, well, nuts.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:16 PM
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88. Joe Scarborough was on "Real Time"...
...about six months ago and he had a meltdown that was quite revealing.

He said, "You have NO IDEA what we go through! NO IDEA!" as he talked about
the pressure the MSNBC commentators are under, from their bosses. Joe said
that they are constantly taken aside, and told, "You were too hard on this
politician" and "the campaign didn't like it when you said..."

Joe said that the campaigns incessantly call the MSNBC bosses and complain
and shout about what the commentators say, and then the bosses ream the
commentators.

I think that's why we see the back-and-forth attitudes from people like
Matthews. He speaks his mind, and I'm sure he hears about it, then has
to placate the corporate big wigs. Although, Tweety has been a voice
of reason lately...that's for sure. He doesn't take bullshit on "Hardball"
and that's why I love that show.

Scarborough is paid to perpetuate the GOP meme, and I'm sure that whenever
he gets off message--he hears about it big time. Joe was totally dissing
the Republicans this morning.
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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:07 PM
Response to Reply #88
98. I'd like to think the news bigwigs would stand firm and fight back. No deal, though.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:43 PM
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102. How can they stand firm...
...when they attend the same cocktail parties and weekend parties at the Hamptons?

That would be just too uncomfortable.

:sarcasm:
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:20 PM
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11. Good. I should get *something* outta the money my IRA has lost. nt
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:21 PM
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12. Pass this video to your GOP and independent friends & family
Edited on Wed Sep-17-08 07:22 PM by Essene
Blinking Mccain: Expertise in Economy Oversights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COW5JTB5fsI

I think it's vital to reach out, RESPECTFULLY to undecided voters and independents. I think pointing at Mccain's utter failures in terms of understanding economics and being out of touch... is key.

Spread the word, be respectful. Be truthful.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:45 PM
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13. Thank you! Excellent Video!
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:46 PM
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14. THANK YOU PASS IT ON =D
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Earth Bound Misfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 04:40 AM
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37. DONE! Thank you for posting this powerful video

I think it's vital to reach out, RESPECTFULLY to undecided voters and independents. I think pointing at Mccain's utter failures in terms of understanding economics and being out of touch... is key.

Spread the word, be respectful. Be truthful


:applause:
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:59 AM
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67. Spread the word, Be respectful. Be truthful =D
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:07 PM
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117. Thank you. (nt)
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:51 PM
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15. The economic collapse wasn't "supposed to happen" yet.
They were trying to hold that off until next year, so the goddamn idiots who watch FAUX would blame Obama for everything.

Now they don't know what to do. :wow:
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:54 PM
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16. This may explain the absence of McCain bumper stickers in ...
Bright Red North Florida..... they are "stealth voters" this year.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 07:58 PM
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17. Great video!
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:04 PM
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19. The butter has slid off the noodles
The last five days could not be created by Monty Python on acid.

I feel as if I am watching a 747 cargo plane packed with explosives plow into a New Jersey tank farm that doubles as a fireworks factory.

Christ, David Lynch couldn't dream up this insanity.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:41 PM
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23. That made me LOL!
:rofl:
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Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 10:00 PM
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25. Haw! Nice! It really does feel that way though, doesn't it?
Edited on Wed Sep-17-08 10:01 PM by Curtland1015
I was talking to some people about it yesterday. It's just plain WEIRD to me. I've never seen a ticket just plain IMPLODE like the Repigs are doing right now! Not that I'm complaining...
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FKA MNChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 10:28 PM
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26. Remember that Mythbusters episode where Adam and Jamie built a big
fire and threw a few pounds of varied ammo on it? Complete, random chaos. Funnier than hell. Grampy based his campaign strategy on that experiment.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:14 PM
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93. "The butter has slid off the noodles".....LOL!!!!!! n/t
,,
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:18 PM
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21. Awesome (and righteous) rant! -n\t
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 09:37 PM
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22. Sununu is your Senator?
My condolences, oh Neighbor To The North.
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Samantha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:45 PM
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27. The U.S. experienced its first attack within our borders under
this Republican administration. We constantly hear the Republicans are tough on security issues, but that fact in the subject line is the elephant in the room everyone ignores.

9/11 would never have happened on a President Al Gore's watch. Gore would have read the National Intelligence report produced by the CIA. He would have NEVER left Washington, DC for Florida on that fateful day without as much as a "heads up" to we who live in and around the Nation's Capital.

I would give anything to see that in an ad. The American people need to be reminded who sat in the Oval Office (or rather had just hurriedly evacuated it) while the Pentagon burned and 3,000 died in the Twin Towers in New York. It was a Republican.

Sam
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 04:10 AM
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33. The first attack within our borders was in 1993, also on the WTC.
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:59 AM
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50. And Clinton's people put all those attackers in prison, where they are today.
There is another board for you, maybe.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:13 AM
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69. No, the first attack within our borders was 1812.
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Fighting Donkey Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-17-08 11:47 PM
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28. Uhh, I don't really think so.
We shouldn't get cocky. They're going to lose seats in the House and Senate, but the presidential election is still close. Like Harry Truman, fight to the very end.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:42 AM
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31. True...
Things are looking up for us right now, but we'd be naive to think that the Republicans don't have something (more likely, many somethings) up their sleeve to be deployed before November 4th. We can't assume we're going to win this one in a cakewalk (sound familiar?), but have to keep working as if the race is going to be dead-even on the morning of 11/4.



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Shiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:42 AM
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39. Exactly
No matter what things may look like, we HAVE to work as if we are ALWAYS 20 points down. Don't let people think we are, but we ourselves have to think as though we are.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:33 AM
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30. But...but... they said if the Dems win, the country will be in even worse shape! I don't want that!
Obviously the GOP is the party of change and the only ones who can fix these problems.


:sarcasm:

(in case you didn't get it.)
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arKansasJHawk Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:46 AM
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32. One problem ...
I have a teeny, tiny problem with your list of Remembers ... I feel, unfortunately, that the Democrats have been complicit in the Bush power grab. I really wish the leadership in Congress had been more forceful over the past two years.

I'm not bashing the Dems here. I understand they've been hemmed in at every turn by the administration. But I think they've been discouraged too easily. I especially wish Kucinich's impeachment movement had gotten more backing.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:46 AM
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45. It's easy to believe that isn't it. However, with 49 Dems in Senate, it's hardly a majority
And the GOP blocks anything they don't want or the Dems can't use against them politically. For example, the Republicans have blocked *every* single energy bill proposed by the Dems, unless it had something for Big Oil in it. And the Dems have no political ground to stand on to not give it to them. However, the GOP dare not block the Minimum Wage bill that got passed this year, an election year, or they'd be worse off than they are.
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arKansasJHawk Donating Member (311 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:55 PM
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83. I know that, absolutely
But, paradoxically, that's another point that bugs hell out of me. When the Democrats were the minority, they didn't use those same blocking tactics as much as they should have.

Clearly, especially before '04, it would have been politically dangerous to take on the then popular President, but the ReThugs have had no problem SUPPORTING Bush in a minority role even though he's political poision now.

You know, I'm no politician. I really don't know how a lot of that nonsense in Washington REALLY works. I just feel like a lot of opportunities to stop this b.s. were missed.
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 04:11 AM
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34. they need to credit source: NY Times magazine article: 'the vanishing republican" 2+ wks ago n/t
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 04:23 AM
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36. The meltdown was worse before Palin, but Palin is fading a lot faster than my jeans.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:48 AM
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46. I'm sorry, I never read or saw that article. And now that you pointed it out to me
I don't see how I need to credit it? :shrug:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 04:16 AM
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35. Can your "Americans Remember" list be copied for
distribution? I'd sure love to send it to a few people I know.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:49 AM
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47. It's being distributed on the Web right now. Feel free to use it.
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 04:56 AM
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38. Another message the media has alluded to that the Obama campaign needs to seize on is
that Obama = FUTURE, McCain = PAST. They did a kinda ham-handed attempt at it with the computer illiteracy ad but they need to shore it up. Chris Matthews is really helping Obama out with pushing this but he's totally right in that when the country was unhappy with their direction, they were more than open to choosing someone new-- but that someone had to sell that it was a new change worthy of the risk.

So what I would like to see is perhaps an ad that's a montage of those moments when change triumphed over the status quo: Truman (chosen over Great Depression Republican Hoover), JFK over Nixon, Clinton over Bush, etc. And then Obama over Bush-McCain.

That's just my $0.02 here.
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:32 PM
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78. Truman beat Dewey, not Hoover.
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eshfemme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:50 PM
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81. LOL @ me!
I guess I need a history lesson! :p
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:53 AM
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40. K&R and bookmarked. Thank you!!! n/t
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Bill219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:16 AM
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42. I was watching the Red Sox game the other night on NESN
and saw one of the Sununu ads and it was pathetic

The one I am talking about is where they just show clip after clip of him walking really fast thru the scenes( kind of a rip off of the famous Wellstone commercial to me). Meanwhile, "the voice" says that he is young and energetic. Then it cuts to a scene of Jeanne Shaheen and she is walking very slow and "the voice" starts talking about her "old" politics.

The best that they could do was an attack ad on her supposed age

My wife and I both laughed because the ad was so lame
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:17 AM
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43. so who is with me......his name is and always will be John THE BUSH REPUBLICAN McCain
Well I've never been to spain
But I kinda like the music
Say the president is insane there
And he sure knows how to lose it
Then he'll abuse it
Or we'll refuse it
He just can't use it

Well, I've never been to Alaska
But I kind of like the Mooses
So I headed for the white house
Only made me feel so useless
Can you feel it
You know she got tits
Oh so good... oh feel so good

Well I've never been to heaven
But I don't live far from Russia
Well, they tell me I was born smart
But I really don't remember
In south alaska or arizona
What does it matter
What does it matter
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:21 AM
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44. Sounds like the start of a perfect morning,
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:33 AM
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48. Tweety wets his finger each day to see which way the wind is blowing before giving "his" opinion. nm
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 08:43 AM
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49. That's not his finger... and don't even ask how he wets it /nt
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:00 PM
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89. HEY, HEY that's not a visual I want in my brain. Thanks alot. nm
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:16 AM
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54. Tweety's change: My husband told me I needed to watch Hairball last
night, after I had worked late. I mashed the Comcast button thingy and it showed Keith, Rachel, Keith, Rachel, etc until 11pm cst. I set up the vcr to tape hairball at 11. Got up this morning to see the historic Hairball and it was Keith. What I am thinking is there must be a great hew and cry for more Keith. Tweety, being desparately needy, has become a Keith impersonator. I remember when Keith only came on at the hour I wanted to watch the Daily Show, and it was Hairball, Hairball, Hairball, maddening spit-flying Tweetyfest from 4pm till 2am, except for the Daily Show hours. So the good thing is I have to really try hard to find the old hair of the dog. I think he has his finger on the pulse of the country, as opposed to Rove's pulse, and also concerned about Keith gaining ground. Thundering hoofbeats of liberal viewers fleeing from Pat, Tony "fathead" Blankley (whatsisname?), "Bowties Galore" circus of neocon's arguing with the spit-machine Tweety.
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:01 AM
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51. Here in Washington, Dino Rossi the candidate for governor
refers himself as a member of the GOP Party. Other Repukes won't even use the R next to the name.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:06 AM
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52. The Republicans have deliberately ruined the US for
lower and middle class people to generate profit for the rich, and they have made the lower and middle class Republicans think Democrats did it!

I saw that program too, and I was amazed at the low quality liar who represented the right wing POV. He was such a slime, and would not say anything positive about Bush, or the republican party, but simply tried to get out of the target area - "they are wrong but not me" seems to be the republican mantra now.


I can't understand how anyone could be undecided in this election and I can't understand why so many evidently still support McCain.


mark
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:11 AM
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53. Republicans are not saying they are republicans
Soto is retiring because of health reasons. A friend showed me the information she was given and I had to laugh. The spin is that she is a person not a politician and my friend said she sounded like a democrat. There is zilch, zip on her information that indicates she is republican. We had to go to the website. From what my friend had said, I thought she may be running as an independent.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:30 AM
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57. Name one GOP Congress Person who shouldn't be voted out or impeached now
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:16 AM
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58. Maybe Hagel
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:05 PM
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91. Sorry, no. The neocon-fascists and their party of choice have declared war on
Freedom and Democracy. Unless republicans vocally start refuting their neocon-nazi masters, they are not on our side.

This is war, you have to choose a side.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:28 AM
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59. REC #50
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SeaLyons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:36 AM
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62. We Remember and we are never going to let you forget!!!
:kick:
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:47 AM
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63. I've been saying that Obama needs to add that to his campaign stump speech ...
... telling the American people to look around their neighborhoods and towns for the political yard signs of Republican politicians, and watch their ads on TV, and note how they're all hiding their party affiliation -- running away from their record of the last 8 years, just like John McCain. They're all framing themselves as "independent minded", or in some other generic manner.

A theme along this line is much-needed, and would make a LOT of down-ticket Dems happy, as well, since it would provide a one-two punch... hitting McCain on his faux-change image and highlighting that all Republicans are trying the same tactic.
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greyghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:21 PM
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75. That's their plan alright. Here in NOVA Tom Davis is vacating his seat,
the Repub candidate isn't admitting he's a Repub.:rofl:
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:44 PM
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120. Yeah, I'm seeing TV ads from 2 known Republicans *never* mentioning their party ...
... but using generic "independent" and "reform" terminology.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:50 AM
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64. we should never forget what the Republican party has done to us
but we should not forget what the neocons have done to us either, does anyone remember faintly how Cheney does not think about the party, and remember how he effed off Leahy. Cheney is a war criminal a traitor, and all the rest of them, you know all the thugs.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:50 AM
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65. And They Did That With A Lot Of Help From Democratic "Enablers"
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 10:51 AM by Better Believe It
in the Senate and House.

How many times did Senate Democrats filbuster against Bush's right-wing Supreme Court and other appointments?

How many times did Senate Democrats filibuster and block some of Bush's most reactionary legislation such as FISA and the bankruptcy bill?

Were filibusters even threatened?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 10:56 AM
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66. Moronic.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:12 AM
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68. Who signed the Gramm-Leach-Billey Act? A Republican?
This kind of thoughtless nonsense doesn't help.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:03 PM
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74. You do want to win this year? Don't you? And if it were true that Dems were equally to blame
Then I guess voters made a huge mistake in 2006.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:26 PM
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76. Yes, I just don't think distorting the truth helps us win.
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 12:26 PM by redqueen
"Not to blame at all" and "equally to blame" are not the only two options. I never said "equally to blame", so I'm not sure why you threw that out there.

It's clear as day that Republicans deserve the VAST majority of the blame, but all?

Dunno about you, but seems to me that just gives readers a reason to think 'well what else in those claims might be BS?'
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:34 PM
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79. I was responding to the first dissenter, who you defended (and supposedly agreed with)
Yes, there are some bad dems, just like there are a handful of good Repubs. But in this case, the generalization of the Republican party is justified. They are to blame for the state of our nation. Plain and simple. The American voters don't handle nuance very well.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:03 PM
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115. Who Voted For It ?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:07 PM
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116. Republicans of course. But NOT with a veto-proof majority.
:think:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 09:19 PM
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123. A Majority of Senate And House Democrats Voted For The Act Clinton Signed It
The Congressional vote was:

For Against
Senate 90 8

House 362 57

It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 12, 1999.

The banking industry had been seeking the repeal of Glass-Steagall since at least the 1980s
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 12:22 AM
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124. ...
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 12:22 AM by redqueen
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 09:10 AM
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125. You're talking about the vote on the conference report, not the act.
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 09:10 AM by redqueen
The vote on the act itself is in the link I posted above.

The ONLY reason the LONE Dem Senator voted for it is for procedural reasons.

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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 10:54 AM
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126. The Conference Report Supported The Repeal
You don't think that vote was important?

You're playing with words and facts.

If the Conference Report had not been passed, the repeal would not have happened!

Is that not correct?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-19-08 11:56 AM
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127. So you think the Senate Dems only voted against it cause they knew
Edited on Fri Sep-19-08 11:56 AM by redqueen
they could vote for it later?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:14 AM
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70. Yep - the Dems bought the Republican challenge that filibustering was childish,
and so we never did it. Come to find out, of course, the Republicans have no such reservations about filibustering fucking anything.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:15 AM
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71. Sununu a Worshington outsider -- the talking points no longer need to make any sense, do they
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ann_american2004 Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:42 AM
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72. YOU GO BERNI!!!
Tell it like it is! :patriot:
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 11:44 AM
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73. K&R.
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curiousdemo Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:41 PM
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80. Tha' Filty animals are spinning...
out of control...:crazy:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 12:55 PM
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82. Yes, but 1% of people got benes from Republicans. And that's all that matters.
:sarcasm:
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:00 PM
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84. In the local election yard signs around here
and even on their campaign websites, NONE of the GOP candidates proclaim their party affiliation.

Like rats fleeing a sinking ship.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:06 PM
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86. What I love about your post is the dots are connected and a whole
picture of failure and misdeeds is developed. This HAS to be done more effectively in the press and by candidates. The case is there to make...but pundits, candidates, and the press seems to focus on the topic of the week and then move on to the next one. The GOP loves to narrow complex issues and trends down to smaller topics that can be debated (ie. the entire torture issue was reduced down to water boarding; and you're hearing now that the whole election merely comes down to the debates). No one can deny the strength of the overall case you make. Sadly, there are dozens more issues you could add.
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Riverman Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 01:09 PM
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87. "ENOUGH! STOP REGULATING AMERICAN FAMILIES AND START REGULATING CORPORATIONS"
This is one of the best posts! The DNC and the friendly 527's need to hammer this everyday until the election. This and the Keating Five affair that implicates McCain for his coruption, dishonor and having no clue about the economy. It is the Economy Stupid! And Why is it? Two wars, and shovelling billions at crony contractors, breaking the Treasury, allowing the CEO's run off with immoral golden parachutes while the companies they left behind are falling like volcanic ash, bailing out the failures while leaving millions of American Families to suffer unspeakable crushing debt and no decent paying jobs to pay off those debts and losing our homes in the process. This is the Republican legacy, not just the Bush legacy, but these crimminals have been running things since Nixon - how many of his former officials worked in the Reagan, Bush Sr and now junior's administrations. It has been anti-government, no taxes and endless beating of the drum for the sacred private sector sold with the mirage of Christian values! It has been BS from the start, and anyone with their eyes open and being honest knows it!

Look what they are doing right under our collective noses! Socializing Financial Institutions designed to make the private monetary/banking system function. And now they are saying - oh well it is not working, so now lets use taxpayers money to bail it out and have the federal government (don't kid yourself - the bankers created the Federal Reserve system in 1907 to protect the banks from the vaugeries of the monetary system, but they are a federal government entity)own these corporations because if we don't there could be a worldwide financial collapse! They don't ask us if we want to use our tax revenue that way, they don't ask Congress - theoretically our representatives - they told Congress what they were doing!

Joe Biden is right when he said he sounds angry because he IS angry! And so are we Joe, so are we!
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nahant Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:02 PM
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90. The Republican Party is in A Complete Panic Meltdown
Smelling burning the burning of rethuglian asses as more and more of their policies of the past 10+ years of complete deregulation of the financial markets causing $$$$ pain from top to bottom!!
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 02:13 PM
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92. Those bastards think they're so brave now, huh?
Where the bloody HELL were they seven years ago?

Or even four years ago?


It's real easy to kick someone in the ass as he's heading out the door, isn't it....


those fuckers


Yeah, show us a meltdown.... may they all melt into the big piles of slime they really are underneath


:mad:



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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:38 PM
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99. WOW!!!
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 03:55 PM
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104. I personal hope
this destroys the republican party. They done enough harm as is.
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tooeyeten Donating Member (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 04:06 PM
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106. not a patriot among them
They're heartless, and unAmerican.





:patriot:
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bos1 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 04:27 PM
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107. Singlehandedly my arse
The Democratic Party was absolutely complicit in allowing the attack and occupation of Iraq.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:42 PM
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110. The Democratic Party Didn't Have A Say. They were ramrodded into it with lies that were fed
To all of America. Support for the War was well above 70% at the time. And it was because of the false threat of WMD.
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:12 PM
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108. DO NOT GET COMPLACENT
Edited on Thu Sep-18-08 05:13 PM by DonCoquixote
The GOP is ready, willing and able to do anything to reverse these numbers, including starting a war with Pakistan or Russia. This is the time we need to chant the mantra "it's the economy, as sadly, for many people, that is the only thing they will care about! The media is complacent as hell, willing collaborators; even many on the so called "left" media will avoid attacking for fear of risking their meal ticket and or ego.. Yes, it is good to see that the facts are bubbling up to the surface like Texas crude, but if we think that this election cannot be stolen, then we have forgotten how a glorified Chimpanzee named George Bush got into office!

They say DRILL HERE! DRILL NOW!

I say "FIGHT HERE! FIGHT NOW!"
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:36 PM
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109. I saw Tweety way back when and he did something
extraordinary. He looked into the camera, lifted himself out of his chair as if he was bowing before royalty, all while staring into the camera, and said something, (I can't recall verbatim), he said 'something' that sounded like it was directed at Darth. HA! 'I, your not so willing subject, am on to you and your vays'. I think he winked, (that part of my memory may have been off). HA! HardBall HA! Darth HA!
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 05:56 PM
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113. Still have the letters?
Scan them, post them, and let's get them out there. Send a LTTE disputing anything anyone posts that's in his favor.

Anyone who would consider voting for these morons should not be allowed to fuck up this country any longer. They need to have the facts when they argue with you.

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biggerfishsmallpond Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:00 PM
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114. Republicans - the Party that Wrecked America
as coined by James Howard Kunstler
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:10 PM
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118. Let 'em Melt
I won't be happy til Rethugs are something you tell your kids to scare them.

"Eat your broccoli or the Republicans will get you!"
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 06:46 PM
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121. The Republicans are against Bush WHILE they are for him.
That takes some doing. The flip and the flop happening at the same time. What do you call that?
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-18-08 07:05 PM
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122. Kick
:kick:
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